If this is xF in it's infancy, I can't wait until it is considered mature. Because from my perspective, it was a cinch to set up, update, install add-ons, configure, etc. But then again my background is something along the lines of I got my first 8088 PC in 1986 and was programming in BASIC while most kids were playing soccer, but my programming stopped in college when I wasn't into that. Call it missed opportunity, the www 'came out' while I was in college and I have friends who became millionaires within years of quitting college because of it. So I know nothing of php because it doesn't look much like FORTRAN which was the last language I "learned"...but I can muddle my way through it, thanks to this site and google.