Well by definition, if the maximum number of recipients is Default, which in this case equates to 0, then they won't be able to send to anyone.
The Default permission inherits values from other usergroups, but if they're not members of another usergroup which has a value (e.g. 5) then there won't be a value to inherit.
Did you make that created usergroup the primary?
I'm asking because I believe I was having the same problem. When I made the "registered" usergroup primary and the created usergroup added as a secondary it finally worked.
Well by definition, if the maximum number of recipients is Default, which in this case equates to 0, then they won't be able to send to anyone.
The Default permission inherits values from other usergroups, but if they're not members of another usergroup which has a value (e.g. 5) then there won't be a value to inherit.
Thanks Brogan, personally I think that is a bit unintuitive, if the default value means that the system is unusable even if you set it to allow.. that seems illogical to me.. a minor setting should not overwrite the Major setting imho. Or it should at the least scream at you to set a value.
Hmmm not really following that logic Mike, and I know this is going to come up again and again for you, it is not intuitive to us who are not Coding Gods like yourself
In this case, the default value of (what appears to be) a minor setting overwrites the explicit setting one has made.... If it is as intended, then, respectfully, could you please consider making it completely obvious that one HAS to enter a value there otherwise it will overwrite the "Allow" permission, or alternatively instead of having the default be 0 make it 2 so that normal PM function is allowed if the Admin has set it to allow for that group and like many of us hasn't realised the significance of that setting.
Default essentially means not set.
I think there was some discussion at the start as to whether to call it that or not, instead of Default.
That's exactly what it means and how it works.so going off the definition of default meaning 'not set', doesn't that mean that they should have no permissions whatsoever until we, the admin, specifically give them to the usergroup? But that's clearly not the case, so I don't get it.
That's exactly what it means and how it works.
Try creating a new usergroup called "Test".
Set all of the permissions for it to Default.
Move a test user into that group and remove them from all other groups.
They won't even be able to view the forum as they won't have the necessary permission.
Exactly!Or is it just because if you set a permission to deny then any user with that usergroup can never have that permission, even if they're given a secondary usergroup where that permission is allowed?
Am I understanding that right?
Awesome! Thanks Brogan.Exactly!
You've got it.
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