BirdOPrey5
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If this keeps up Monsanto will buy XF and shut this place down.
lol I thought Internet Brands tried something like that already.If this keeps up Monsanto will buy XF and shut this place down.
Well then nothing you eat was meant to be by your definition. Once we started medaling in agriculture we no longer favored the strongest or best adapted. We artificially water crops favoring those who may need more water than others better suited that may require less water. We favor that which tastes better over that that doesn't, even if it attracts more bugs because we have pesticides.
Humans are the opposing force of evolution. Same with dogs... the genes of pure bread dogs are terrible because we stopped favoring the strong, we favor the cute or the quiet or the smart dogs... The strong dog are a liability.
Hell if humans evolved a 3rd arm we'd probably cut them off as babies because it isn't normal.
The point is- meant to be is a dream. That ship sailed long ago.
How many people have to die from cancer before it's determined to be a bad idea?We don't know what the long-term effects of GMOs will be, so it's natural to be cautious.
Describing genetic engineering as an extension of natural breeding is, at best, disingenuous. The genetically modified genes are inserted into the DNA of a few plant cells, for example, in tissue culture, which is intended to re-program the cells genetic blueprint, conferring up completely new properties on the cell. This simply wouldn't happen in nature. The few cells that actually survive this process are treated with hormones so that they will differentiate into small plants that can transplanted and grown. Once they're growing, those that show high levels of the modified genes are favored and kept as candidates.
This process isn't necessarily dangerous, but it can lead to mutations in the plant's DNA blueprint. These mutations may alter the functioning of the natural genes in possibly harmful ways. It's not a precise process, and simply manipulating just one or two genes can cause multiple changes within the plant itself (pleiotropic effects). Genes do not act as isolated, but interact with one another.
We won't know just how good or bad idea any of this was until years from now.
How many people have to die from cancer before it's determined to be a bad idea?
Watch the movie Yes Man Fix The World, it was sued by the the Department of Commerce and you actually got to look around a bit online to see it, but it shows how politicians actually find ideas at the cost of human lives, it's normal practice.As long as there is profit it's never a bad idea no matter how many die from it.
Tens of thousands of people a year get lap-band surgery to eat less food. If there was a way without surgery I could feel full eating just a cup of yogart a day, yes, sign me up.So then you would not be against being modified yourself to require less food then I take it and not opposed to having that modification forced upon you?
it is more resource efficient to modify that which consumes the resources and produce and distribute less resources - than it is to modify the resources themselves which still require a high production of resources.
Don't be silly... Anti-gravity would get past that.... Now air... That's another thing to talk about *cough* patten *cough*What next? Patent Gravity?
As I stated earlier, carcinogens increase likelihood of developing cancer, not guaranteed. There are a ton of factors that go into cancer and if someone develops cancer, you can't blame it solely on an outside factor. 3 out of 4 of my grandparents have passed away from brain cancer, this increases my likely hood of developing the disease. Its also believed that using cell phones can cause brain tumors. If I develop brain cancer, I can't blame cell phones or any specific industry for the cancer. The only thing we can do is to find a cure. And stopping genetically modified foods isn't going to cure cancer.How many people have to die from cancer before it's determined to be a bad idea?
Smoking is a choice, eating is not.Cigarettes are full of carcinogens. When is the government going to determine its a bad idea and stop the production of tobacco products?
As I stated earlier, carcinogens increase likelihood of developing cancer, not guaranteed. There are a ton of factors that go into cancer and if someone develops cancer, you can't blame it solely on an outside factor. 3 out of 4 of my grandparents have passed away from brain cancer, this increases my likely hood of developing the disease. Its also believed that using cell phones can cause brain tumors. If I develop brain cancer, I can't blame cell phones or any specific industry for the cancer. The only thing we can do is to find a cure. And stopping genetically modified foods isn't going to cure cancer.
Cigarettes are full of carcinogens. When is the government going to determine its a bad idea and stop the production of tobacco products?
I agree, stopping GMOs won't cure cancer, but there's also no harm in people knowing the potential hazards behind the practice by labeling such foods, so they can make more informed decisions for themselves.
ALL regulation/red-tape is harm. You can't say there "no harm" in a new regulation.
It would cost billions of dollars to label everything that has been made from a GMO crop. 90% of soy is GMO. If you go to the supermarket, you'll notice most food has soy or a product derived from soy on the ingredient list. The process to go way back and identify where the soy came from would be a huge project and would require a giant task force.
It's much easier to label food that is actually non-gmo and allow regulators to confirm.
Viruses transfer genetic material naturally... Some plants have been found to contain viral genetic material from long ago.
With any breeding you're changing many genes. Just because a plant is bred by standard procedure doesn't make it safe. The chances of creating a carcinogen is extremely rare by chance.
What you should really be concerned about is regulation over known toxins such as aflatoxin B1.
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