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Discussion in 'XenForo Pre-Sales Questions' started by Vincent, Jul 31, 2010.

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  1. Vincent

    Vincent Guest

    You guys made this open-source, and free to use. I'm sure many people would donate to help keep you guys going.
  2. DarkGizmo

    DarkGizmo Active Member

    It'd be really cool if you stopped being cheap and actually paid for the software like everyone else is going to. The thing with making software, commercial software, is to make money and to pay the developers who make the software. People like phpBB and MyBB aren't being paid anything for their software and are doing it voluntarily in their spare time, basically, a bunch of script kiddies who have lots of free time on their hands are developing those. XF aims to be a professional piece of forum software, and to do that, they need a development team which I'm sure they are creating behind closed doors, but in order to pay for that dev team, they need to be getting revenue coming in from the software itself.

    I honestly doubt they'll make this open source. Stop being so cheap and buy a license like everyone else is going to be doing upon release.
  3. Shelley

    Shelley Well-Known Member

    I doubt that. Relying on donations would jeopardise the longevity of this project/product. It's not a steady income and that is what the developers need, an income which puts food on the table and keeps them at their computers writing code and giving us a software that will mature into something great.

    Bottom line, you cannot expect them to rely on donations. It's asking them to work for free basically.
  4. wizzard

    wizzard Active Member

    It's already been said this is commercial visible source software, so no it isn't going to be free.
  5. Onimua

    Onimua Well-Known Member

    A lot of people want something to be free, but they are quick to forget free comes at a great cost. Maybe not to you, but definitely whoever provided it to you.
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  6. BirdOPrey5

    BirdOPrey5 Well-Known Member

    It would be really cool if the guy in your sig was real... but he isn't... and this won't be free.
  7. Kuma

    Kuma Active Member

    Donations would not cover the operating/living expenses of the developers for to long. At least thats how the bear mind works. I give you guys something nice, you come give me a few fishies, but until there is a problem I might not get more fishes. I might not even get fishies again until I give you something else new.
  8. Rhydian

    Rhydian Active Member

    This is a definite no, like mybb you would have problems with staffing, upkeep costs, licensing issues and it would just turn out to be a bunch of ****.
  9. Umit

    Umit Active Member

    If it was free, i wouldnt pay any attention...
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  10. Kuma

    Kuma Active Member

    I do not think that is really fair to anyone. There is a lot of free software that is fantastic, discounting something that is free is silly just because it is free. Thats like judging someone on the color of their fur!
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  11. ManagerJosh

    ManagerJosh Well-Known Member

    Uh...no. I'm happy to pay for a forum application that works well.
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  12. BirdOPrey5

    BirdOPrey5 Well-Known Member

    So you pay no attention to PHP and MySQL?
  13. GodForum.com

    GodForum.com Well-Known Member

    It can't be free because alot of us have commercial forums and need the support of a real company when it counts most.
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  14. Floris

    Floris Guest

    Thank you for your feedback, I am glad you like the software enough to want to use it. I am sure in due time you will. Free or not.
    I think it is over-par and not under-par, compared to free alternatives. But to keep the quality growing and not degrading, I believe that open sourcing it might not be the solution. A commercial license (at $1 or $1000 or anywhere in between) helps it keep high quality, with professional support, guaranteed through development, guaranteed professional support (replies within reasonable time that actually help the customer), and keep it visible source.

    Going open source will derail the project from its original goal and end up with a solution like nuke-phpBB or alike spin offs, and in my opinion, it's all not going anywhere.

    Look at what open source has done for phpBB, while well known (because it's free), it's under par, and with the amount of people capable of contributing to the code line, phpBB3 is here, with what ... not even 50% of what xenforo already is, which is written by two professionals, in obviously less than 12 months time.

    I rather pay what it is worth, and take my community serious. Than hope for free download, because I am cheap.

    I am not saying that I do not like open source, or that I do not support it. I am just saying I do not like the idea of open sourcing xenforo.
  15. Umit

    Umit Active Member

    @Kuma and @BirdOPrey

    Sorry for misunderstanding, i meant that i dont pay any attention to any free software that is in beginning period. PhpBB and MyBB are great softwares but I have some bad experiences. But look at wordpress, i love to use it. I hope this explains...
  16. kyrgyz

    kyrgyz Well-Known Member

    Well, if XenForo had big sponsors like AOL or Google to start with and collection of ad revenues from customers' sites [would you agree for such a setup?], then I am all for it. Mozilla FireFox had $2 million donation from AOL. Not a bad injection for a non-profit enterprise. Now Mozilla collects $60-70 annually from search royalties. :eek:

    I am ok with XenForo being a commercial product as long as its price is not sky-high. Kier has already indicated that xF will be competitively priced agains big boys. So, expect it to be anyware from $100-200. Not bad for a top-notch forum software if you are serious about running a community. Besides, if you have a huge community $100-200 is really nothing compared to the cost of running it (dedicated server, customizing, support, etc).
  17. WhatChaMissin

    WhatChaMissin Active Member

    If all you're looking for is a basic forum there are plenty of free alternatives, but if you need more than just the basics then you should expect it to come at an additional cost.
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  18. Markos

    Markos Well-Known Member

    Go to Google. Search "PHPBB".
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  19. Floris

    Floris Guest

    A lot of empty and dead sites, and lot of exploited and warez sites.
  20. Floren

    Floren Well-Known Member

    Feel free to make a 20 millions donation to Kier, I'm pretty sure he will release it as GPL. :)
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