Impossible to start reading unread thread from first post
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David Thomas
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You focused on the last sentence in the entire post, which resides in parenthesis. Kudos, well-done. Didn't think that was possible.
There's a bug where this "feature" is active on a thread you've never clicked on a day in your life. Unless you mean to tell me that the forums are self-aware, mind-reading, and knows what you want to see before you see it.
Dean
in memoriam
Sorry, thought you had seen the other posts. I'm getting these mixed up, too much reading on the forum.
Posts older than 10 days old (current setting) on xf.com are marked as read. So if a thread was started 15 days ago, then had recently been posted to, only the posts newer than 10 days will be considered unread. Then when the title is clicked it goes to somewhere in the middle of the thread.
That is the same way it works in vb, except in vb there is a little icon to click and thread title takes people to the first post. I am not sure what software you are used to.
On our forum we have a much longer timeout than 10 days, and this is one of the reasons.
There isn't a bug per se. There's an unexpected behavior, but it's sort of doing the right thing.
If you mark a/all forums as read, you are telling the system that you have read the threads, so you're not going to be jumped to the first post. If an old thread is bumped up, the system automatically considers old posts as read. Both of these behaviors are consistent with what threads you see listed as new, so the whole system is consistent. You wouldn't get any different behavior if you clicked a tiny icon.
For me, going to the new post is basically always what I want to do, so it makes sense for it to be the primary option. I understand that people may not be used to it at first, but I also think that it will improve the experience for the average user of your forum. I could be wrong; it's obviously an experiment and it's been quite polarizing.
David Thomas
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Ahh, ok, that makes sense. Thanks for clarifying!There isn't a bug per se. There's an unexpected behavior, but it's sort of doing the right thing.
If you mark a/all forums as read, you are telling the system that you have read the threads, so you're not going to be jumped to the first post. If an old thread is bumped up, the system automatically considers old posts as read. Both of these behaviors are consistent with what threads you see listed as new, so the whole system is consistent. You wouldn't get any different behavior if you clicked a tiny icon.
For me, going to the new post is basically always what I want to do, so it makes sense for it to be the primary option. I understand that people may not be used to it at first, but I also think that it will improve the experience for the average user of your forum. I could be wrong; it's obviously an experiment and it's been quite polarizing.
As for experimenting, have fun with that! I'll be reverting this in whatever way necessary, at least for my first forum where a lot of non-techies are almost sure to get aggravated (though I could be wrong about my assumption). Is there any way you can make this a user option? That would be even better than having just an admin switch. Then, the admin can set what the default is, and the users can change it if they see fit.
For the record, I always clicked the "Go To Unread" button too, but I just hate having the title perform that function for some reason. Maybe I'm already growing resistance to change at the ripe age of 21.
Sador
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This is absolutely true, however, it's still annoying that when there are no unread posts, you get warped back to the very first post. The very last one seems way more logical to me. Other than that, I love it that you go to the last unread post.There isn't a bug per se. There's an unexpected behavior, but it's sort of doing the right thing.
If you mark a/all forums as read, you are telling the system that you have read the threads, so you're not going to be jumped to the first post. If an old thread is bumped up, the system automatically considers old posts as read. Both of these behaviors are consistent with what threads you see listed as new, so the whole system is consistent. You wouldn't get any different behavior if you clicked a tiny icon.
For me, going to the new post is basically always what I want to do, so it makes sense for it to be the primary option. I understand that people may not be used to it at first, but I also think that it will improve the experience for the average user of your forum. I could be wrong; it's obviously an experiment and it's been quite polarizing.
I'm getting really uncomfortable with this XF habit of opening a thread at some completely random point.
When I open a thread I've never opened before my default desire is first post.
Some might prefer to set CP option for newest post.
But in the middle somewhere unpredictable? NO THANKS.
Sorry to put in a growl but this is getting REALLY irritating.
When I open a thread I've never opened before my default desire is first post.
Some might prefer to set CP option for newest post.
But in the middle somewhere unpredictable? NO THANKS.
Sorry to put in a growl but this is getting REALLY irritating.
Forsaken
Well-known member
...It opens to the newest unread thread.
It is in no way random, is actually how most users would read a forum topic.
Andy Huang
Well-known member
Its supposed to be where you left off, but because the forum can only guess this by time, I personally don't like it either. First thing I'm gonna do is change that link to the first post of thread, and then add an icon for the same "new post" link.
Kim
Well-known member
No it doesn't just take you to the first unread, it starts at some totally random point, I have the exact same thing happen.
Even threads I have not looked at at all open at the last page, or somewhere in the middle.. very annoying.
Threads I have looked at don't necessarily take you to the last unread either... they are also very random.
Even threads I have not looked at at all open at the last page, or somewhere in the middle.. very annoying.
Threads I have looked at don't necessarily take you to the last unread either... they are also very random.
DoctorWatsOn
Well-known member
Same here, I can't think that I've ever ended up at any random place.*
* Well not on here anyway.
Sador
Well-known member
Isn't FireFox 4.0 in beta right now?
Kim
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Poltergeist
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The forum software knows the last time you visited the site. The next time you visit it considers any posts since that time to be new. When you click on a thread that you have not been in before it takes to the first reply/post since your last visit. It considers that point to be the first unread. Its the same with all other forum scripts.
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