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Honest opinions please.

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Slavik, May 3, 2013.

  1. Slavik

    Slavik XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    As part of the services I offer to my local customers, people requested virtual tours of their businesses.

    So, I invested in some equipment, and went and did a first shoot on Wednesday, doing this one free of charge to get used to the equipment and fortunately, can go back every day to tweak settings etc.

    Anyway, this was the result after much playing and working, this is about as good as i've managed to get it thus far.

    http://p8ntballer-forums.com/bon/output/toilets_unwrapped.html

    Now honestly, if you were a business, would you buy that? I'm not sure I would, but maybe im being over critical?

    Especially when, if you compare to the samples on the vendors website, http://www.pano-pro.com/index.php?route=information/information&information_id=22

    So... would you buy it or not? Litterally, be honest, because I either A) need to work out why my quality isn't as good as it needs to be and fix that or B) Send the equipment back, and use a more traditional stitched image style get up.
     
  2. Milo

    Milo Member

    I think it looks alright. Doesn't look as clear as the vendors website. The light coming through the windows on the first frame doesn't help.
     
  3. Francesco V.

    Francesco V. Active Member

    I think resolution is too low
     
  4. CyclingTribe

    CyclingTribe Well-Known Member

    Exposure looks wrong and possibly too much compression as the finished wrap-around looks blurred and poorer quality than the ones on the vendor's site.

    Personally I wouldn't buy it - I'd want it re-doing as I don't think it's clear enough. Sorry. :(

    Perhaps it's a matter of settings - since all the different points have the same quality look and feel? Night, day, bar, takeaway - it doesn't seem to matter.
     
  5. AdamD

    AdamD Well-Known Member

    Yea I agree on the light and the image itself looks blurry
     
  6. CyclingTribe

    CyclingTribe Well-Known Member

    Presumably the lens fits to your camera body and you get a RAW or JPEG that you then feed into the panorama software to get the 360 degree view?

    What's the quality of the original image - before it goes into the pano software?
     
  7. Slavik

    Slavik XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Thats what I thought.

    These are the raw input files... as you can see and zoom in, the quality of the raw photo isnt *that bad* I dont think at least?


    Scratch that, will upload seperately for full file
     
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  8. Slavik

    Slavik XenForo Moderator Staff Member

  9. tenants

    tenants Well-Known Member

    I don't think it is clear.. so it looks like a low quality image, that was until I zoomed out completely.

    Is there a setting to start the image zoomed out to the maximum?
     
  10. CyclingTribe

    CyclingTribe Well-Known Member

    Look at the extremes - the windows - they're over exposed so it might be worth manually dialing the exposure down when you try again - maybe do 3-5 shots at half-stop reductions to see if that improves them? Or maybe use the circular crop tool in PS to reduce it before converting it?

    The quality looks okay on the original though, so I think they're probably losing finished quality during the conversion process.
     
  11. CyclingTribe

    CyclingTribe Well-Known Member

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    CyclingTribe Well-Known Member

  13. Biker

    Biker Well-Known Member

    The thing I hate about panoramic shots like that is the warping that occurs as you scan across near objects. Shots like that are great for realtors, but I'm not sure it has a useful application outside that arena. I could care less what a business looks like. I just want good service from 'em.

    Unless you're certain about recovering your costs with something like this, I'd give it a pass.
     
  14. DRE

    DRE Well-Known Member

    Make your starting point, bar in the evening instead of starting us at the toilet.
     
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  15. nrep

    nrep Well-Known Member

    Agree with this - it doesn't look great at the moment, but if you took the shot in a more appealing place and got the exposure correct then it would look much better :).
     
  16. pipedreams

    pipedreams Active Member

    Slavik, I presume you are aware of this, but what you are doing is very similar Google Map Business Photos: http://maps.google.com/help/maps/businessphotos/

    It's become very popular in my local city, and I got to know one of photographers. She needed to be approved by Google first, but was then allowed to submit business for google maps, while charging clients for same.
    Even the local churches used her services: http://goo.gl/maps/nx9Ui
     
  17. Slavik

    Slavik XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Yea, unfortunately in my local area you can't sign up... I tried a few times :(
     
  18. Slavik

    Slavik XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    I said that to the owner, but... he wanted it taken there.... dont ask why... just... did...
     
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  19. pipedreams

    pipedreams Active Member

    Ah well :(
     
  20. Ingenious

    Ingenious Well-Known Member

    The resolution and quality just isn't as good as it should be IMO.

    I take it from your JPEGs above you are using a sort of 360 mirror to do this? These are always going to be lower res. You're better using a fisheye and a nodal ninja (or other pano head) and stitching the images which you can do with free software. Here's an example of some I've done for clients using this set-up on a Canon DSLR:

    Margam Abbey
    Inside a sandwich shop
    Inside a fireworks shop

    Even with Google coming into this area there is still scope for this service for those who want better quality 360s for their websites.

    Edit - and just a personal thing, but I hate when auto rotate is set to "on" :)
     
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