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Font Awesome - Black Tie (Kick Starter)

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Chris D, Jun 20, 2014.

  1. Chris D

    Chris D XenForo Developer Staff Member

    So the developer of Font Awesome, Dave Gandy, is developing a new project called Black Tie. It is essentially a re-write of Font Awesome:


    I know a lot of people are using Font Awesome and I think most people who do will find this new project interesting.

    There are various goals and rewards. If he gets funded $200,000 then he will build a custom icon subsetting tool which will allow you to only include the CSS and font icons that your site uses. I think that would be a fantastic feature.

    I'm pledging a bit towards the project. If you use Font Awesome at the moment, support the guy who made it and support the next incarnation of the product.
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  2. Steve F

    Steve F Well-Known Member

    Not seeing much in there for development use yet but I do see they just changed how a license will work. Instead of having to buy a license per domain they are going to allow unlimited use license.

    Probably something I will look at in the future more and will think about backing it but as of this post I have not yet.

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  3. Chris D

    Chris D XenForo Developer Staff Member

    Not my place to tell people where they should spend their money, but I have personally pledged $29 and I will probably keep doing that sporadically until their targets are met. That ensures I will get a few licenses and styles plus also allow me to show my gratitude for what Font Awesome is today and how it has enhanced the current products.

    Obviously from our point of view it is going to be tricky because we can currently "redistribute" Font Awesome so we can include it freely in our styles and products and that won't be possible with this being a commercial product. I'm guessing there will eventually be some sort of development license available eventually. But, we could always develop a joint solution that would allow people to use either FA or BT in our products (providing they have a valid BT license themselves).
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  4. RickM

    RickM Well-Known Member

    Pro: More new icons
    Con: Likely no more updates to font awesome
    Con: It's a commercial font kit, and given how long it took for FontAwesome to fix their license the first time around, you can bet you wont get redistribution rights without paying a hefty fee.

    It's hyped up a lot, but to be honest I don't see this as a good move right now, at least not until more info is provided on licensing and the future of the current FontAwesome project.
  5. Steve F

    Steve F Well-Known Member

    Yea it could still be easy enough to integrate it into styles and add-ons. With how a majority of our style properties are set up for FA it would most likely work for people out of the box, simple fill in the blank with the correct 'fa-icon-name'.

    I'm definitely not ruling out contributing, and would likely use this for my own projects.
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  6. RickM

    RickM Well-Known Member

    He's already messing with the license again:

  7. Chris D

    Chris D XenForo Developer Staff Member

    That was quoted by Steve above, already.

    "Messing with" sounds negative. Seems like a positive change to me.
  8. EQnoble

    EQnoble Well-Known Member

    It must be a locale thing, messing around generally means (around here anyways) that changes are being made until the person finds the happy place with no 100% concrete 'this is the answer' so from my POV I don't see the negative connotations but see what you mean in the wording.

    I never used FA just because that is something anyone can add at anytime and for my own stuff that I develop just for the helluvit I tend to keep images at a minimal but a lot of people have asked me about it so when the BT thingy is available and I am not broke I may give it a whirl just to see whats under the hood.

    Is the original author of FA the sole person in charge of this project or does he answer to someone else (just curious for my own reasons)?
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  9. Forsaken

    Forsaken Well-Known Member

    I backed it the first day, though I'm not really interested in the subsetting tool as I already use http://icomoon.io (and own the ultimate pack).
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  10. Chris D

    Chris D XenForo Developer Staff Member

    I was impressed with icomoon. Especially the fact it already integrates with Font Awesome.

    And then I tried to do one of the fancy Font Awesome tricks of one icon overlaying another... doesn't work with icomoon :(

    But, admittedly, I haven't explored the other packs available to it yet.
  11. Chris D

    Chris D XenForo Developer Staff Member

    I believe it is Dave Gandy only.
  12. EQnoble

    EQnoble Well-Known Member

    That's good...I have found out way too many times already that involving money with things that involve more than one party for judgement calls can be a nightmare.

    I may contribute at some point if it stays with him as the only one in charge of the project's future just for the whole 'too many knights at a round table calls for a square and changes the shape of things' aspect of development.
  13. Null

    Null Well-Known Member

    TAZ has gone ahead and pledged.
  14. Jaxel

    Jaxel Well-Known Member

    I've personally invested over $1K in various Kickstarters over the past couple of years and I will continue to do so.

    What is Font Awesome?
  15. EQnoble

    EQnoble Well-Known Member

    Short answer: makes using svg icons easy as in using css class names, like class="fa .fa-microphone" gives you a microphone icon and also provides a quick way to add shadowing and such.
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  16. Chris D

    Chris D XenForo Developer Staff Member

    Wouldn't it be a good idea to invest (some time) in your own? Or provide an update to those who have invested in you?

    Don't use the hostility in there as an excuse. That's of your own doing and can be repaired very easily if you want to.

    Anyway. To answer your question, basically Font Awesome is a font face that consists of icons. Include their CSS from their CDN and add markup similar to:

    <i class="fa fa-trophy"></i>
    Will produce a nice trophy icon.
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  17. RickM

    RickM Well-Known Member

    As a quick TL;DR to the above answers. Go here: http://fontawesome.io/icons/

    All those icons you see are a font, not images.

    That's FontAwesome :)
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  18. Chris D

    Chris D XenForo Developer Staff Member

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  19. Null

    Null Well-Known Member

  20. Dave Gandy

    Dave Gandy Member

    Hey folks. I've been following this thread for a bit and thought I should respond to some concerns.
    • Font Awesome isn't going anywhere. I'm actually going full time on the icon thing. That means I'll actually have more time to work on the original Font Awesome than before.
    • I am indeed the person in charge of the entire direction of the project. I love this stuff. I'm really excited I can do it full time now.
    • Black Tie is funded, but there's still a ways to go with the stretch goals. Stay tuned for some updates to those very soon.
    Are there additional things you all would like to see as group rewards / stretch goals? Maybe some things specific to Font Awesome? Any other questions or criticisms? I'm really happy to answer.
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