Firefox Release thread -

[digitalpoint]

Hah.. yeah, I never thought I would say it, but the new versions of Internet Explorer really aren't that bad (although I've been on a SPDY kick lately... so not having that in IE is annoying. heh)

I used to not be able to live without Firebug, but like you mentioned, the Chrome debugging/dev tools are really nice and now going back to Firebug is a little painful.

Mostly though, I just wish Firefox supported CSS zoom... even if it was a proprietary -moz-zoom or something. Using transform: zoom() to do the same thing is painful enough (involves wrapping the object you want to zoom in a floating div) that I finally just gave up trying to support Firefox for retina graphics. Instead it's just enabled via a special CSS stylesheet if you are on Safari, Chrome, IE and Opera.

 

[Adam Howard]

Hah.. yeah, I never thought I would say it, but the new versions of Internet Explorer really aren't that bad (although I've been on a SPDY kick lately... so not having that in IE is annoying. heh)

I used to not be able to live without Firebug, but like you mentioned, the Chrome debugging/dev tools are really nice and now going back to Firebug is a little painful.

Mostly though, I just wish Firefox supported CSS zoom... even if it was a proprietary -moz-zoom or something. Using transform: zoom() to do the same thing is painful enough (involves wrapping the object you want to zoom in a floating div) that I finally just gave up trying to support Firefox for retina graphics. Instead it's just enabled via a special CSS stylesheet if you are on Safari, Chrome, IE and Opera.

That is something I'll forward along to the chain of command... I think it's come up before. Not sure exactly what the reasoning for why it is the way it has been.

 

[digitalpoint]

If you are curious what the difference is, zoom changes the size of the object in the DOM... trasform: scale() leaves the object in the DOM the same size. So scaling down with transform: scale(), you end up with giant margins.

You can try this in Chrome's console to see the difference for scaled avatars in this thread:

$('.avatar').css('zoom', .5);

vs.

$('.avatar').css('-webkit-transform', 'scale(.5)');

 

[feldon30]

I finally bit the bullet and removed Firefox from all my computers and switched to Chrome. Got tired of Firefox constantly pausing and hanging and taking up half my RAM for who knows what. I couldn't play a Youtube video without pausing every 5-6 seconds. Reboots, reinstalls, clearing my cache and Downloads list, and even a data migration did nothing to help. Chrome works like a champ.

I remember when Firefox was rock solid -- 3.6. Then they got on this rapid release crap. To quote Samuel Jackson (just before he shoots Robert De Niro in Jackie Brown) "You used to be beautiful man, what happened to you? *blam* *blam*"

 

[Digital Doctor]

I like how Chrome remembers the zoom for each site.
http://xenforo.com/community/threads/chromes-zoom-and-xenforo-what-zoom-level-do-you-like.35321/

 

[Adam Howard]

I finally bit the bullet and removed Firefox from all my computers and switched to Chrome. Got tired of Firefox constantly pausing and hanging and taking up half my RAM for who knows what. I couldn't play a Youtube video without pausing every 5-6 seconds. Reboots, reinstalls, clearing my cache and Downloads list, and even a data migration did nothing to help. Chrome works like a champ.

I remember when Firefox was rock solid -- 3.6. Then they got on this rapid release crap. To quote Samuel Jackson (just before he shoots Robert De Niro in Jackie Brown) "You used to be beautiful man, what happened to you? *blam* *blam*"

Must have been 6 months ago. No longer an issue now, but granted it's going to take time for Firefox to recover that image. The development was really going down the wrong path. The concept was good, but not practical and those who were "driving the car" didn't know how to oil it right (if you catch my meaning).

Should give it a try.

 

[AdamD]

i forget how many years ago I switched to Firefox, must've been 8? years, I've never really found a browser I liked since.
Plus I like things which are familiar, so Adblock/Firebug and Firefox are great for me
Using about 250mb with 2 tabs open (with a youtube vid playing) which isn't too bad imo

 

[Adam Howard]

i forget how many years ago I switched to Firefox, must've been 8? years, I've never really found a browser I liked since.
Plus I like things which are familiar, so Adblock/Firebug and Firefox are great for me
Using about 250mb with 2 tabs open (with a youtube vid playing) which isn't too bad imo

You're going to love this

6 open tabs
40 add-ons
24 plug-ins
1 YouTube Video in full HD with this text editor open for 3 hours

Only 512 MB and we're still not done optimizing v20 for a smaller foot print (this is only the starting). It's going to get so much better

 

[AdamD]

Yar the nightly one seems aok to me.
Only thing I don't like, is the right click menu is massive
It must have about 100 entries in it? lol

 

[Adam Howard]

Yar the nightly one seems aok to me.
Only thing I don't like, is the right click menu is massive
It must have about 100 entries in it? lol

Right click is dependent on what add-ons you have. It can also be dependent on what you have installed on Windows, that also plug into your browser. As both can add things to that menu (maybe a good idea to see what's installed and change settings were needed).

The default without anything added is compact as standard.

 

[AdamD]

Ahh, thanks Adam, I Did wonder about that
I turned a bunch off, restarted and it was back to normal
Turned them all back on again and it's still normal, even after a few restarts, yay
heh, I'm liking this nightly version.

 

[Carlos]

I finally bit the bullet and removed Firefox from all my computers and switched to Chrome. Got tired of Firefox constantly pausing and hanging and taking up half my RAM for who knows what. I couldn't play a Youtube video without pausing every 5-6 seconds. Reboots, reinstalls, clearing my cache and Downloads list, and even a data migration did nothing to help. Chrome works like a champ.

I'm trying not to get to this point, but I've experienced what you have; pausing, hanging up, and whatnot. I've gotten a lot of "not responding" hangups with FireFox, even on FF17.0.1. Annoying, and if FF doesn't fix this, I will have to move to Chrome. I am wary of Google's own browser. I'm not scared of Google's own Network of services, but Chrome seems like a conglomerate move to me. By conglomerate, I mean, taking information directly from your computer with or without your consent.

 

[Digital Doctor]

Firefox 19 is quite fast, even on this slow Windows XP box.

 

[Ditto]

I like FireFox, have Chrome installed as well. But always find myself using FF first.

 

[Digital Doctor]

I had to stop using FireFox because it was getting so terrible (slow, memory leaks galore)
I wish I understood what went wrong with Firefox.
I still miss the awesome bar, but am sticking with Chrome for most daily use.

 

[Lawrence]

I am pretty disappointed with FireFox as of late. It was my go to browser for years, but now, IE is. I really never gave Chrome a chance, but will give it a go.

 

[Slavik]

I am pretty disappointed with FireFox as of late. It was my go to browser for years, but now, IE is. I really never gave Chrome a chance, but will give it a go.

I cant stand the lack of a menu bar in Chrome.

I love everything else about it, but no menu bar is just... it enrages me.

 

[Digital Doctor]

I cant stand the lack of a menu bar in Chrome.

The minimal UI approach to things can be noble, but the lack of a menu bar is annoying.
At least let users toggle the menu bar on/off.

Google might say there is a menu bar ..... it's just small.

Considering how small the menu bar is .... it provides alot of convenience for such a small amount of screen real estate.
I think allowing users to make their own menu items would be a win.

 

[Adam Howard]

I had to stop using FireFox because it was getting so terrible (slow, memory leaks galore)
I wish I understood what went wrong with Firefox.
I still miss the awesome bar, but am sticking with Chrome for most daily use.

Understand that Firefox 19 is still beta.


While on the subject.....

Something I commonly find odd is how people will add add-ons and expect things to always run smoothly. That's not the case with Opera, Google Chrome, or even Internet Explorer.... What makes people think that adding an add-on would never have an ill effect on Firefox, is anyone's guess.

 

[Digital Doctor]

Something I commonly find odd is how people will add add-ons and expect things to always run smoothly.

It's insane that customers expect things to be easy.
My wife is unlikely to ever install software well on a Windows box, but she can install apps on her iphone.

FWIW, I don't install that many addons in browsers. Foxmarks is probably the only one I cared about for Firefox.