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[Reedswood]

Hi

I must say that I wish the devs well here on this new platform, but PLEASE don't make the same greedy messed-up mistake as vB/IB has done, as I've just seen that you're releasing your BETA release shortly, and the price is as expensive as vBulletin, and it's not even GOLD!

You must make it more affordable to the masses otherwise you too won't attract many clients! It's the price that get's considered first, then it's the product. I have every reason to believe that it will be a super platform in time, but don't go asking the earth until you really do get established!

 

[Floris]

Get a credit card, pay it in full, then pay off the credit card in 12 months. Tada ..

 

[Elizabeth]

Actually, it's more than $195 a year vs $140 a year. Here we get ticket support included in the price. There, ticket support is an upgrade of $80. And while most don't pay that, if you ever need it ONE time, add the $80 to your yearly fee. 

 

[steven s]

There is always http://www.phpbb.com/

 

[Paul M]

Actually, it's more than $195 a year vs $140 a year. Here we get ticket support included in the price. There, ticket support is an upgrade of $80. And while most don't pay that, if you ever need it ONE time, add the $80 to your yearly fee.

Its not $195 per year

Get a credit card, pay it in full, then pay off the credit card in 12 months. Tada ..

Dont forget that you will be charged interest.

 

[steven s]

Dont forget that you will be charged interest.

0% for 12 months.
This thread is getting silly.

 

[Sador]

Well that depends on how often that happens

Three years or over, XF would be more expensive, two years or less, it would be cheaper.

Seeing what IB is planning I'd say XenForo will likely be the cheaper one, the way it's looking right now anyway.

 

[HannahP]

You cannot however, pay for it monthly, or daily.

Sure you can. I'll buy it for you and you can pay me monthly. My monthly fee is $10 though. There has to be some meat on the bone for me. I've got you covered, baby.

Anyway, you can't categorically state that something is expensive just because it may be expensive to you.

I spend more than $100 on lunch a few times a month. If $100 fell out of my pocket I wouldn't even notice it was gone until it was time to pay for a 16 year old bottle of Lagavulin Scotch. So to me, it's nothing. Like change in the couch cushions. On the other hand, I'm not a rich man, so a Bently or a Rolls Royce seems expensive to me. But there are many, many people in the world who could walk in to one of those dealerships and write a check out of their petty cash to buy one (Kier and Mike, for example). Expensive is relative.  

To someone who rarely gets the opportunity to spend $100 on anything but rent or meth cooking supplies, maybe it's a tremendous sum. But that's not the vendor's problem, it's the consumer's problem. 

 

[Peggy]

Here's another analogy.

Let's pretend for a second that vB4 sucks and that IPB doesn't have the best UI in the world. Let's also pretend that both are about as semantically coded as my left shoe. Then, let's pretend a new forum software came along with a very modern and well thought out intuitive UI, was semantically coded and wiped the floor with the others in terms of out of the box SEO, performance and inovation. Let's pretend also that the new software was marginally cheaper than IPB's forum only version. Which one would you buy?

Oh wait, that's not an analogy after all, silly me.

EXCELLENT post!

 

[glorify]

The price is right. The yearly price is right. The $100 day long presale is right as rain.

 

[jonsidneyb]

It is a bargain.

 

[Mayers]

$140 is very reasonable. From what I see already it's well worth the investment.

 

[Trevor]

It's obvious that xF is going to be competition to many of the forums out there, including open source due to the pricing.
So it's safe to say, hypothetically, as a developer, I would take ideas from xF and implement them on my updated forum software version XYZ.

It's also safe to say that xF will be the foundation of ground breaking forum innovation. Also the developers seems happy, and when the community is happy, the developers are happy.

And with that said, the future looks bright.

By the way, I forgot who mentioned it because I'm too lazy to search, but someone said something about HYPE.
I will not buy this product out of hype. I will buy it because it suits me perfectly.


*skates out thread* lol

 

[Booth]

It's already cheap buddy. Don't get greedy

 

[Forsaken]

Its not $195 per year


Dont forget that you will be charged interest.

Truthfully, did you ever have an intention of buying a license, or are you just here to do what you tell people not to on vBulletin? The latter seems more likely from your posts since the beginning.

With the way vBulletin seems to be going, I do not doubt there will be a new major version by the end of 2011, actually, I'm pretty sure there will be. Yeah, we can't say there will be a new major version once a year, but with the way IB has controlled vBulletin to this point, it seems very likely, yeah?

When I say this is reasonable, a bargain, or cheap, I take into account many factors, and not just the current features. If I looked at current features, I'd have to say, yeah its a bit much compared feature-to-feature with IPB and vBulletin, because those are both bloated with features that often go under-used, have been poorly implemented, and don't really drive traffic to stay on the site, nor to utilize features.

I however compare from the fact that within time, depending on success of the platform financially, I can see XenForo fully overtaking both vBulletin and IPB (IPB at least has more of a chance then vBulletin). Every thing was thought out in such a way that there is logic behind all the placement, the implementation, and the featurelist itself.

Compared as a forum-only solution against the competition, XenForo is already better. But I'm sure you'll disagree, but thats to be expected.

Don't bother to reply, I won't be responding again, its pretty apparent what your main reason for being here is, and quite honestly, its rather hypocritical, don't you say? 

 

[steven s]

It's already cheap buddy. Don't get greedy

Not cheap. The word is inexpensive.

 

[Booth]

Not cheap. The word is inexpensive.

Sorry, in my vocabulary $100 is, as David Dickinson would say...

 

[goyo]

I've been in the forum industry for a very long time (10+ years).

Gosh. When a 24 year old person telling me that he was in forum industry since he was around...let's say...12 year old...I have an urge to open a bottle of Scotch, Vodka or anything that kill brain cells fast...
But an ignore function would also suffice.

On topic: I'd pay 3x times more for XF just to play and learn from it .
For $140 it's a very well priced product

 

[Paul M]

Truthfully, did you ever have an intention of buying a license, or are you just here to do what you tell people not to on vBulletin? The latter seems more likely from your posts since the beginning.

I cant make sense of the second half of this. As to a licence, I would have considered it were the price right. It isnt, so Im not. Simples.

Compared as a forum-only solution against the competition, XenForo is already better. But I'm sure you'll disagree, but thats to be expected.

In your opinion, its not a fact, and yes, I'll disagree. Your disagreement with me is equally expected.

Don't bother to reply, I won't be responding again, its pretty apparent what your main reason for being here is, and quite honestly, its rather hypocritical, don't you say?

I'll reply as and when I want. I dont make that decision based on directions from you. Please do enlighten me, and indeed us all, on my "main reason" for being here. Oh, sorry, you cant can you, as you wont be responding. Oh well, I guess we'll all have to live in suspense.

 

[Dan]

I'll reply as and when I want. I dont make that decision based on directions from you. Please do enlighten me, and indeed us all, on my "main reason" for being here. Oh, sorry, you cant can you, as you wont be responding. Oh well, I guess we'll all have to live in suspense.

Paul, I think we all expect a little more from you than trolling. I know I do.

 

[Paul M]

I give what I get, anyone who knows me know that. If people want to troll me, they will get it back.