smallwheels
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Oh really? Who would have guessed that...They are in fact correct that Google's services can be a privacy violation.
For that matter, visiting any website their web server logs can have sites people are visiting from, what browser is used (and in many cases, the browser's plug-ins), IP addresses and from IP addresses, geo-location.
The netherlands have historically been famous for very liberal hosting and freedom of speech. The have a long tradition for hosting sites, that in other countries were endangered to be shut down. It got a little stricter in recent years as far as I can judge, however - most of the filthy traffic that hits my forum and comes from within the EU comes from the Netherlands. Raids and server confiscations there typically would have a very good reason. Anyway it would be way way bette than hosting in the US (or using US based services or services providers) where since the patriot act from 2001 no privacy is guaranteed and even less if you are not a US citizen. It got way worse since then and with the current government it is no better than any dictatorship state. With the system of subpoemas you can be spied at easily and to not even get informed. There is a reason why there are such things as warrant canaries...If you think you're any better off with other countries, looked up the recent raids and server confiscations in the Netherlands, a country famed for its so-called privacy protections.
Warrant canary - Wikipedia
A company that decypts large amounts of web traffic and has so full access to it's content is a perfect target for "agencies". If this company resides in a country where those agencies not only can force companies to secretly hand over user data but also have a proven history in doing so I would call that a problem.
They're a publicly traded corporation and have incentives to do evil things to make money.
Very few publicly traded corporations don't eventually start abusing the market position that users give them.
But once they get a large amount of the market, that's usually when the abuse starts.
You may want to read this blogpost and the comments below it:Cloudflare already has 82% of the reverse proxy market share, and 20% of all websites go through them. Rather than abusing their market position, I've seen them increase efforts at transparency, and they are one of the most transparent companies out there.
Cloudflare took down our website after trying to force us to pay 120k$ within 24h
TL;DR:
Cloudflare seems pretty dedicated and pretty transparent but it also seems they do have a dark side.
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