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BGL said:
The vB suit is to prevent competition by forcing them to use their resources for lawyers vs. things like marketing. And if it's Door No. 1, XenForo will be taking over ForumCon.com.
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I personally beg to differ. It would be the XenForo CON :)
 
BGL said:
They might be following their passion and feeling lucky they make a living at it. Which makes producing great software an end to a means. They can't stop doing, don't want to stop doing, would do it no matter what. The life of Jobs.

That doesn't preclude getting big payoff from vB and agreeing to make even more money making great software continuing to develop XenForo under whatever name.

Internet Brands main business is running forums, buying vB was a case of vertical integration for them. They screwed up in not going with Plan A (vB4.0 aka Xenforo). OK...they fix the mistake. Wouldn't Internet Brands save a LOT of money on its forum business side but using XenForo? It would save even more money not having to develop vB5 and using XenForo as the upgrade path.
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It would definitely save them a lot of money, but there are other issues at play here, including ones that deal with pride, humility, ego, and image
 
ManagerJosh said:
It would definitely save them a lot of money, but there are other issues at play here, including ones that deal with pride, humility, ego, and image
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Yeah...and then someone plays the universal trump card....money.

They both make way more money together. I would say IB would seem to have big financial incentive to bring XenForo in house, saving a lot of money on its core business of running forums, saving a lot of money on developing vB5, getting a lot more sales and being in better marketing position with vBXenForo as their flagship product.

A lot will depend on IB internals. If they are losing sales to IPBoards and XenForo, they will have huge incentive to bring XenForo in house. If they are really announcing their own inhouse created vB5 on Tuesday then its death cab for cutie as far as vB vs. XF, two codes enter, one code leaves kind of resolution.

A lot depends on XenForo internals, do they have the cash to fight the lawsuit.

What VB does on Tuesday will be the sound of one shoe dropping.
 
Ummm....

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Maybe we should just see how this all unfolds....
 
BGL said:
A lot will depend on IB internals. If they are losing sales to IPBoards and XenForo, they will have huge incentive to bring XenForo in house. If they are really announcing their own inhouse created vB5 on Tuesday then its death cab for cutie as far as vB vs. XF, two codes enter, one code leaves kind of resolution.

A lot depends on XenForo internals, do they have the cash to fight the lawsuit.

What VB does on Tuesday will be the sound of one shoe dropping.
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Complete speculation here...but:

1. VBB may be a small part of IB at this point and a tiny part of the parent company. I have run some numbers and this is not big business...nor even mid-sized business! It's a nice small business.

2. Losing sales is something that always happens between competing companies. In the case of forums, the hope is that the total market grows, so everyone has some business.

3. Looking at the guestimate for total XF sales so far, it would not even be a blip on the radar screen for a big company......so the idea that VBB or IB is shaking in their boots seems strange. I think, more likely, their bigger problems are self-induced (their failure to keep their code updated, etc.)

Hey, anything can happen. A meteor can strike tomorrow. A settlement could be reached which included something of the sort you mention. I'll marvel, though, if you are correct and it happens at Forumcon.
 
We could start a betting club on this... though Xenforo odds wouldn't be worth betting on IMHO for a win, just like VB for lose... the odds would be like betting on betting on Black Caviar!
 
We need more judges like U.S. Circuit Court Judge Richard Posner.

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Yesterday, Posner scrapped a trial between Apple and Google's Motorola Mobility slated to start in Chicago next week after he rejected the arguments for damages because neither side was able to prove it was harmed.
The move is a welcome breath of practicality in this increasingly muddled and litigious world of technology patent warfare. Beyond competing in the market, technology players have moved to the courtroom as a second front, using patents to distract competitors and even ban products from coming into the country.
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