California Case Update
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jonsidneyb
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Sorry about my outburst.
Onimua
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Like the lawsuit?
Fufu
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page 5, line 13 is very interesting claim made by VBSI that xenForo.com WHOIS was registered in California.
Johnny Large
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Been going through IB employee's declarations... I'm in full support of XenForo, but I'm a little troubled by Rosenblum's declaration, which affirms that the ex devs had access to over 100 million dollars worth of IB assets. He affirms that they had access to information contained in vBulletin forums which IB run.
I think that the information contained on such large boards would be of enormous value during development of new features, and I can see a very valid point there to litigate. What do you think about this?
I think that the information contained on such large boards would be of enormous value during development of new features, and I can see a very valid point there to litigate. What do you think about this?
Peggy
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100 million dollars worth of assets? Exactly what kind of assets is he referring to?
Of course they had access to information contained in vB forums.... Kier was the lead developer. Mike was a developer. Would be kind of strange if they didn't have access.
iTuN3r
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Peggy
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touche' lolVb 4.0 with Bugs i guessMust be worth Millions .
Shelley
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Read the corresponding paragraph in the Answer to the First Amended Complaint:
Onimua
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I might be going on a limb here, but I'm pretty sure most of the information would prove a bit useless when it came to developing a feature set for vBulletin.
If Kier was looking for feature suggestions, he'd be looking at the forum designated for such discussions on vBcom's own site.
When it comes to developing XenForo, most of what's here is the expected minimum of any forum software, but applied with the standards of this decade, not the previous one.EDIT: Ah, Kier replied.
iTuN3r
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I might be going on a limb here, but I'm pretty sure most of the information would prove a bit useless when it came to developing a feature set for vBulletin.
If Kier was looking for feature suggestions, he'd be looking at the forum designated for such discussions on vBcom's own site.
EDIT: Ah, Kier replied.
IB's claim's are funny
The person who worked as Lead developer don't need to steal any information when they were paying him to use his ideas for vbulletin itself once upon a time.
Digital Doctor
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IB have submitted a representation of the defendant at work at vBulletin to help illustrate their claims.
Russ
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One thing's missing in this picture; the very large camera.
Johnny Large
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Thanks for the reply Kier, I am reading the Answer to FAC now.
The only reason I'm interested on this point, is because I believe it may be the only valid point IB's made, everything else is frivolous nonsense.
I mean reality is IB does have some pretty popular forums, with tons of traffic. Some of these boards are heavily modified.. And I would wonder, if anyone had access to statistical information of any such boards, couldn't one very reliably conclude which mods make traffic increase so dramatically? It could be a unique opportunity to get such information.
I guess the question really is.. was there any printed, or electronic file, with such statistical information moving around to privileged devs? I guess if you never had access to those the lawsuit is wholly pointless. But being fair here, if there was privileged access to that supposedly über valuable information, wouldn't IB be entitled to some relief? IB has misconducted itself on many issues, and we bear witness. But this particular issue is worth debating.
The only reason I'm interested on this point, is because I believe it may be the only valid point IB's made, everything else is frivolous nonsense.
I mean reality is IB does have some pretty popular forums, with tons of traffic. Some of these boards are heavily modified.. And I would wonder, if anyone had access to statistical information of any such boards, couldn't one very reliably conclude which mods make traffic increase so dramatically? It could be a unique opportunity to get such information.
I guess the question really is.. was there any printed, or electronic file, with such statistical information moving around to privileged devs? I guess if you never had access to those the lawsuit is wholly pointless. But being fair here, if there was privileged access to that supposedly über valuable information, wouldn't IB be entitled to some relief? IB has misconducted itself on many issues, and we bear witness. But this particular issue is worth debating.
Jose Amaral Mota
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Did you read what the response within pdf and the so obvious posting Kier just made... That you are now replying about. It is mute to discuss this, unless you want hypothetical answers.
Page 04 / Paragraph 16
21st Apr 2011
52 - Answer to Complaint (Discovery)
Where's AnthonyCea...
Johnny Large
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Yeah but Rosenblum is declaring under penalty of perjury, so as others who wrote a declaration I believe. I think that the winning side will win by a landslide, and I hope the one who's being unlawfully affected be granted relief. I want to buy XenForo licenses, and be a long-term customer. But I need to know who I'm doing business with first. I have licenses with vb, and I'm a bit let down. But I still feel for both.
Kim
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hmmm this is sounding like a fishing expedition to me.
Asked and answered.
Additionally I would for one be highly surprised if there is any such a thing as this "priveliged information" or the Holy Grail of Forum knowledge, and would like to know what specifically this is meant to entail.
IB are not innovators, they are an organisation that purchases ready made sucessful forums, they would have no more of an idea on what makes a sucessful community than any other corporation. If there was some "secret sauce" that Kier or anyone one else allegedly had access too, then IB would be an organisation that created hugely sucessful communities from the ground up.
They do not.
There is no priveliged information this is another frivilous and stupid claim, couched in legalize to fool the technically naive.
Asked and answered.
Additionally I would for one be highly surprised if there is any such a thing as this "priveliged information" or the Holy Grail of Forum knowledge, and would like to know what specifically this is meant to entail.
IB are not innovators, they are an organisation that purchases ready made sucessful forums, they would have no more of an idea on what makes a sucessful community than any other corporation. If there was some "secret sauce" that Kier or anyone one else allegedly had access too, then IB would be an organisation that created hugely sucessful communities from the ground up.
They do not.
There is no priveliged information this is another frivilous and stupid claim, couched in legalize to fool the technically naive.
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