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Brand Removal

Discussion in 'XenForo Pre-Sales Questions' started by LGT, Sep 25, 2011.

  1. LGT

    LGT New Member

    I am willing to pay $140 for a license, but $250 for the brand removal is real steep.

    I just took down SMF because spammers spidered the Powered by.

    Although I like what I see, I don't like it for $390?

    I am looking for something that is spammer/hacker safe.
  2. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Brand removal is optional.
  3. M@rc

    M@rc Well-Known Member

    There's no such thing as "spammer safe".

    You can't stop human spammers if you register at your forum to spam, ;) ( you'll need to be online to ban 'em & remove their posts )
    You can, however, stop the bots that joins hundreds of forums to spam and leave their links.
  4. estranged

    estranged Well-Known Member

    I would order it today if it were 140-150$ I also think branding fee is too high.
  5. James

    James Well-Known Member

    That's why branding-free costs a lot.
    Spenser, TheComputerGuy and Niteblade like this.
  6. whynot

    whynot Well-Known Member

    As Brogan already pointed out : "Brand removal is optional. "
  7. Martyn

    Martyn Active Member

    branding free isnt needed its a simple link in the footer!
  8. LGT

    LGT New Member

    Brand removal is optional and there is no such thing as "spammer safe" are both pseudo-true statements. However removing the branding can minimize spammers finding the site by Google-ing "powered by..." or any other common phrases that forum creators might commonly use.

    Paying an extra $250 to minimize being that target is more than the value board software, IMHO. In fact, not removing the branding is an open invitiation to spammers. My experience with SMF is an example of that.

    BTW, thanks for all the quick responses.
  9. James

    James Well-Known Member

    So you purchase branding free on every piece of software you run that leaves any visual sign of the software?

    Spammers may be able to find the site by googling "Forum software by XenForo", but then they have to get past step 2: registering. A half-decent couple of Q&A's can keep automated spammers from registering. Manual ones? Stop trying.

    If your only reason for branding removal is to minimize the risk of spammers, perhaps branding removal isn't something you need.

    Total expenses: $140
  10. M@rc

    M@rc Well-Known Member

    That's why links on a XenForo forum are "nofollow". So, spammers might be more interested in spamming vBulletin or phpBB forums instead.

    Also, spammers share lists of sites to spam. They do it on webmaster forums all the time. Then again, some pay people to make huge lists of certain types of forums, and so on.

    Another thing. Check this out : Quick Google Search

    Or, do a regular search on Google.com and tell me if you ONLY find Xenforo Forums, :)
  11. James

    James Well-Known Member

    Psst, the footer link isn't nofollow'd ;)
  12. M@rc

    M@rc Well-Known Member

    Actually, I was referring to links posted by members on the forums, :D
  13. a legacy reborn

    a legacy reborn Well-Known Member

    I was about to say that would be quite stupid, link backs to xF.com = $ :p
  14. ChemicalKicks

    ChemicalKicks Well-Known Member

    $250 dollars isn't that much, to be fair.
    Shamil likes this.
  15. whynot

    whynot Well-Known Member

    Not much to earn but can be too much to SAVE .
    (140 + 250)
  16. jauburn

    jauburn Well-Known Member

    I generally do branding free, but I too am having trouble stomaching the idea of coughing up $250 for it.
  17. Deepmartini

    Deepmartini Well-Known Member

    What about the sourcecode? You can always see the Xenforo name in there. So you are paying $250 just to remove the footer info? Are there other places this covers as well? Just trying to justify the expense and if it's worth it or not.
  18. ENF

    ENF Well-Known Member

    IMHO, it's not worth it. Xenforo is so unique, it's easily identifiable by form and function let alone the source of the pages that you can clearly see. To wipe the Xenforo name completely, I believe would take a lot of work. Yet, still, it still be identifiable regardless. I can't really view Xenforo as a white-label product.
  19. Robbo

    Robbo Well-Known Member

    I will like the day when people don't price software like this so cheap. If you paid for this work, at this quality, for your website you would be paying 6 figures. You get it all, with support, with updates, with free add-ons. All for under $150 and under $400 with branding removal.

    I see the branding removal price about right. If you are a website that wants to hide the branding you are generally going to be a big, heavily customized, website that is monetized. So this price would be minimal.
  20. DBA

    DBA Well-Known Member

    Pretty much, I hate seeing a bunch of extra crap in the footer.

    Even though I also think that $250 is to high, I can understand why it is that much.

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