Sadik B
Well-known member
Just thought people here would like to know...
https://flippa.com/2755894-premium-forum-design-and-media-company
https://flippa.com/2755894-premium-forum-design-and-media-company
Net Profit (3 month avg) $3,232Why?
Huh? I was asking 'Why is he selling his site?'Net Profit (3 month avg) $3,232
afaik that means a $20,000 to $30,000 bin price is more along the lines of common practice. Not that I would invest in it myself.
I do not see him ever reaching the asking price.
Why?
Thought you asked why he wouldn't reach the asking price.Huh? I was asking 'Why is he selling his site?'
I completely understand, and getting these large boards over is awesome. That is definitely a good thing. But I have the data from multiple xenforo skin sites that show that sales aren't all too impressive at the moment. Just looking to see how many people are online here is proof as well. Things are going south, and those of us that rely on the success of this product need to make arrangements. Thats all Im doing. I've heard through the grapevine some stuff from various people, and most signs aren't good. Something needs to happen to bring all the developers back in full swing.If Kier and Mike are the perfectionists that I think they are, then they march to the beat of a different drummer. That means they won't let anyone determine their roadmaps and will release stuff when they think it's good and ready. That's why I continue to post here. I think that them going quiet is just a reaction to the lawsuit, the pressure and the danger of competition beating them to the punch or 'borrowing' ideas. So you really shouldn't worry too much about the future of xenforo. After all, it's only two people developing the software. No other employees. And yet they have huge boards like IGN who made the jump.
As a business person who relies on a healthy XF for a substantial part of my income, I'd be a fool not to worry about the future of Xenforo given the state of things. IGN will continue on making gobs of money whether XF thrives or not...I, and others like me, won't. Numbers don't lie and none of us can/will continue to do what we do indefinitely when it is not profitable to do so. The fact that we get no reassurance from the developers other than a pithy bone here and there just ads insult to injury. Those are the facts, not speculation or wishful thinking...facts.So you really shouldn't worry too much about the future of xenforo.
I completely understand, and getting these large boards over is awesome. That is definitely a good thing. But I have the data from multiple xenforo skin sites that show that sales aren't all too impressive at the moment. Just looking to see how many people are online here is proof as well. Things are going south, and those of us that rely on the success of this product need to make arrangements. Thats all Im doing. I've heard through the grapevine some stuff from various people, and most signs aren't good. Something needs to happen to bring all the developers back in full swing.
Myself and others left other platforms to come here, and some of us need to go back or find something else, at least meanwhile.
Why not just branch out and work on other forum software for the moment? Like the old saying goes 'Don't keep all your eggs in one basket'.As a business person who relies on a healthy XF for a substantial part of my income, I'd be a fool not to worry about the future of Xenforo given the state of things. IGN will continue on making gobs of money whether XF thrives or not...I, and others like me, won't. Numbers don't lie and none of us can/will continue to do what we do indefinitely when it is not profitable to do so. The fact that we get no reassurance from the developers other than a pithy bone here and there just ads insult to injury. Those are the facts, not speculation or wishful thinking...facts.
I can only speak for myself, but I left those other platforms because they weren't profitable any longer either (among other reasons) and just picking up and developing for other platforms isn't that easy. It takes time and money...but yeah, I agree 100% with what you're saying and many of us are/will be doing just that. Unfortunately, I think XF loses out for no good reason because when 3rd party developers leave something, they usually don't return.Why not just branch out and work on other forum software for the moment? Like the old saying goes 'Don't keep all your eggs in one basket'.
This way you can still do xenforo stuff but not have to be worried too much about it. It's like a farmer who doesn't grow just one crop but several.
I understand but I think it would be a good idea to do it anyway. If you designed a skin that I liked and used but then I switch over to another forum software, I would buy that skin for the other forum software if you made it. For instance, my favorite vBulletin 4 theme was Grayfolio. When I switched over to xenForo, I had asked the developer to create Grayfolio for xenforo but he ignored me. If he created it I would've bought it. One of my most downloaded themes is a theme that I created for both xenforo and vbulletin that are pretty much the same. For example, Facebook for vB4 and Facebook for xF. By developing the same sorta theme for multiple forum softwares that's another way to increase revenue because people are always switching over to other forum softwares.I can only speak for myself, but I left those other platforms because they weren't profitable any longer either (among other reasons) and just picking up and developing for other platforms isn't that easy. It takes time and money...but yeah, I agree 100% with what you're saying and many of us are/will be doing just that. Unfortunately, I think XF loses out for no good reason because when 3rd party developers leave something, they usually don't return.
I do not see him ever reaching the asking price.
I moved to XenForo about 3-4 months ago. I don't require any skin designers or third party mods as of yet and I don't see myself needing them in the future either. To say XenForo is in decline due lack of third party sales is quite misleading.
If anything, I think it's a major benefit to XenForo that I don't need to rely on third party developers.
I think it's also faulty logic to judge a product by how many users are online on the company support forums.
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