Add-on Articles with pages
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Digital Doctor
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== IDEAS ==
When a new page (aka article) is created, edited, or commented, I think that should be reflected in what's new. Being listed in What's new is what brings life to Pages / Articles.
People should be able to +Watch and +Like + Report pages.
Versioning is a good idea.
Pages should be entirely accessible from outside the AdminCP (or else that just leaves all the work for the admin)(which they never get to).
Page admins should be able assign people to edit a page.
Ideally pages could be edited / maintained by more than one person.
Pages should have their own tab, not buried in the Forum Tab.
Ideally Pages could have templates. Similar to how Jaxel does it in XenCarta (great template caching).
Strict category listing isn't ideal. Pages should be tagged and then a list of Tags is created. Clicking on a tag lists all the articles with that tag.
My focus is on the Page, and less so on the strict Articles format. I would like listings of pages - but I definitely don't like article listings to look like a forum with threads. I'd much prefer Title + Image + Summary to show up in an articles listing.
Morgain: are you interested in Pages and Articles ? I think they are similar but distinct things.
When a new page (aka article) is created, edited, or commented, I think that should be reflected in what's new. Being listed in What's new is what brings life to Pages / Articles.
People should be able to +Watch and +Like + Report pages.
Versioning is a good idea.
Pages should be entirely accessible from outside the AdminCP (or else that just leaves all the work for the admin)(which they never get to).
Page admins should be able assign people to edit a page.
Ideally pages could be edited / maintained by more than one person.
Pages should have their own tab, not buried in the Forum Tab.
Ideally Pages could have templates. Similar to how Jaxel does it in XenCarta (great template caching).
Strict category listing isn't ideal. Pages should be tagged and then a list of Tags is created. Clicking on a tag lists all the articles with that tag.
My focus is on the Page, and less so on the strict Articles format. I would like listings of pages - but I definitely don't like article listings to look like a forum with threads. I'd much prefer Title + Image + Summary to show up in an articles listing.
Morgain: are you interested in Pages and Articles ? I think they are similar but distinct things.
Member 3639
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My pages add-on will be outside the admin control panel as it's just easier than way.
It already has a xenporta block (that works too). Then first thing I am adding is the ability to add more categories from a page, then editing and deleting categories, then onto pages themselves.
It depends on the Generic Script Bridge someone else wrote as it's great for integration.
It already has a xenporta block (that works too). Then first thing I am adding is the ability to add more categories from a page, then editing and deleting categories, then onto pages themselves.
It depends on the Generic Script Bridge someone else wrote as it's great for integration.
Member 3639
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Pagination will be done like this in my system;
You choose the amount of pages you want with the ability to name the pages. So you can have;
Introduction
Testing
Conclusion
For example
As for bbcode editing, I currently have no clue how to put that into it if i'm honest.
You choose the amount of pages you want with the ability to name the pages. So you can have;
Introduction
Testing
Conclusion
For example
As for bbcode editing, I currently have no clue how to put that into it if i'm honest.
Digital Doctor
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BBCode editing would be super popular.
Are you making the pages as their own document type ?
or would they exist in the database as posts ?
Liam: what is your intended use of Pages ? Do you want users to be able to make their own pages ?
will they have comments ?
Are you making the pages as their own document type ?
or would they exist in the database as posts ?
Liam: what is your intended use of Pages ? Do you want users to be able to make their own pages ?
will they have comments ?
Member 3639
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My intended use of pages is simple;
I want someone to be able to make an article with multiple pages, eventually add comment support.
They will be stored in the database and viewed by "article.php?id=1" for example.
Work is very slow as I have a family.
I want someone to be able to make an article with multiple pages, eventually add comment support.
They will be stored in the database and viewed by "article.php?id=1" for example.
Work is very slow as I have a family.
Digital Doctor
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Liam : Do you think you would want the articles to appear in What's New ?
Member 3639
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I would want them to yes.
Just FYI guys i haven't had a second free to work on it, if anyone else was working on one keep going I may never finish mine and it probably won't be what anyone but me wants anyways
Just FYI guys i haven't had a second free to work on it, if anyone else was working on one keep going I may never finish mine and it probably won't be what anyone but me wants anyways
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Update - Did a little work on it.
Along with a working xenporta block for showing categories you can now add categories via a page - Next up adding the ability to add a category to a category (aka subcategorys), as said before though subcats will only be down to one level.
Update 2 - More work
When adding a category, it can now be added to an existing category - creating subcategories!
Next up - finding a way to get the xenporta block to list subcategories (this one will be tricky!).
Need help from whoever is interested, see below.
I need to find the function Xenforo uses to clean post information that is sent to the database, for now I am just incuding a couple of my own functions just so work can continue. If someone can hunt that down for me it will smooth things along.
I also need the function for doing a simple sql query, can someone also find that for me.
Along with a working xenporta block for showing categories you can now add categories via a page - Next up adding the ability to add a category to a category (aka subcategorys), as said before though subcats will only be down to one level.
Update 2 - More work
When adding a category, it can now be added to an existing category - creating subcategories!
Next up - finding a way to get the xenporta block to list subcategories (this one will be tricky!).
Need help from whoever is interested, see below.
I need to find the function Xenforo uses to clean post information that is sent to the database, for now I am just incuding a couple of my own functions just so work can continue. If someone can hunt that down for me it will smooth things along.
I also need the function for doing a simple sql query, can someone also find that for me.
Member 3639
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Update;
After trying long and hard to figure out how to get xenporta and xenforo to work with subcategory listing on a block i removed subcategory ability until such a date as...someone else can add it later.
So rather than being stuck on 1 feature, i would rather work on getting the rest actually working...
After trying long and hard to figure out how to get xenporta and xenforo to work with subcategory listing on a block i removed subcategory ability until such a date as...someone else can add it later.
So rather than being stuck on 1 feature, i would rather work on getting the rest actually working...
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Okay guys a few teasers for you if anyone is interested
Since i gave up being stuck on the subcategorys i've made real decent progress, i reckon i can have an early test available by end of next month latest.
Since i gave up being stuck on the subcategorys i've made real decent progress, i reckon i can have an early test available by end of next month latest.
Deepmartini
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What was your final verdict of ContentTeller? I am still evaluating my options. I will likely just use XenPorta until a native CMS is created in future editions.
Morgain
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Deep I quite liked Contentteller. It has flexibility in its design of its components, and feeds discussion to forum threads which I like.
But it does mean running a parallel system with a very different backend editor. That's tiring and complicated. You also can't inherit XF colours, navbar etc direct; you have to re code a mimic design. That would need updating.
Thankfully my coder Jon (waindigo on here) has now pretty much finished my social groups mod Circle Watch which includes a forum Watch/ Node Watch component. Bit of cosmetic tweaking over the coming week that's all.
We were discussing the Directory mod for Articles this afternoon and he's starting on it now.
This is a paid mod I am sponsoring to my own design. But I am sure that it will encourage Jon to hear from other people interested.
If you want a brief outline of how it'll work in my own design PC me.
Please note I am not using Xenporta. However Liam Dawe is and will want a block to display latest discussion threads connected to Articles.
But it does mean running a parallel system with a very different backend editor. That's tiring and complicated. You also can't inherit XF colours, navbar etc direct; you have to re code a mimic design. That would need updating.
Thankfully my coder Jon (waindigo on here) has now pretty much finished my social groups mod Circle Watch which includes a forum Watch/ Node Watch component. Bit of cosmetic tweaking over the coming week that's all.
We were discussing the Directory mod for Articles this afternoon and he's starting on it now.
This is a paid mod I am sponsoring to my own design. But I am sure that it will encourage Jon to hear from other people interested.
If you want a brief outline of how it'll work in my own design PC me.
Please note I am not using Xenporta. However Liam Dawe is and will want a block to display latest discussion threads connected to Articles.
Deepmartini
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Yes, that was my main reason why I didn't like it either. Another piece to update, break or have the developer get bored and disappear. Also the search wouldn't be integrated from what I see and the users would have two search boxes which is a big "user interface" mess. From what I see most of the CMS functionality can be "mimmicked' using a forum node to put the articles in. Then when a proper Xenforo CMS is made, I'm sure they will have an option to promote forum threads to articles. It's all content in the end, just the output and how it is displayed is different.
The other CMS stuff I am interested in is having "teaser" copy and the ability to write separate teasers and not just pull the first X amount of characters. Also, I am interested in Google's First Click Free option so I get the SEO benefit of indexing all my content but be able to hide stuff from guests and entice them to log in.
Deepmartini
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What is this directory mod? Is it in the mods section here? Sounds interesting. I can see a few uses for it.
Morgain
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Deep I have Preview on the list (your teasers) aka as Read More.
Yes it could be a separate field as you choose the fields you want to have.
I know nothing of gooogle's Clickfree you'd have to talk to Jon about that for yourself as an extra.
It's what I am sponsoring Deep. Jon is coding and we are designing it together - well I've been designing the functions for YEARS! Jon is just starting the coding now as we went through the functions list this afternoon.
Deepmartini
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Here are some links describing Google's First Click Free option. It's very powerful and a great way to boost SEO and entice guests to join.
http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2008/10/first-click-free-for-web-search.html
http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=74536
Now you can protect content from guests and not miss out on any SEO juice and traffic!
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