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You have decided to be devil's advocate today. If you question everything there will be no way to convince you of anything.
AMPXF - AMP for Xenforo 2 [Paid] 2.3.0 Patch Level 3
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To be honest my graphs are far far far away from this one.
@mazzly Kindly explained to me that I had installed the addon during the change of google's algorithm, that my position on the keywords was improving but concerning the ultimate goal ie the number of impressions and especially of clicks I don't see any difference since the installation 14 days ago. I do not question the addon at this time because @mazzly explained to me that there are other factors to take into account, which I understand but overall the installation of this addon did not change anything .
@mazzly Kindly explained to me that I had installed the addon during the change of google's algorithm, that my position on the keywords was improving but concerning the ultimate goal ie the number of impressions and especially of clicks I don't see any difference since the installation 14 days ago. I do not question the addon at this time because @mazzly explained to me that there are other factors to take into account, which I understand but overall the installation of this addon did not change anything .
Anatoliy
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Actually, there is one, I already asked about it. My regular pages load just solid woff, but amp pages - solid + regular. At first glance it's just 14k and loads in 13ms so who cares. But it waits before load for 230ms. Can I get rid of Regular woff2 in amp pages (as I did in regular)?
mazzly
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That graph is also from a 21year old forum that was quite established in its field.. The keywords it is competing for has thousands of searches per month (per keyword). The addon allowed those keywords to go higher in the rankings and therefore grew the traffic a lotTo be honest my graphs are far far far away from this one.
@mazzly Kindly explained to me that I had installed the addon during the change of google's algorithm, that my position on the keywords was improving but concerning the ultimate goal ie the number of impressions and especially of clicks I don't see any difference since the installation 14 days ago. I do not question the addon at this time because @mazzly explained to me that there are other factors to take into account, which I understand but overall the installation of this addon did not change anything .
For smaller/newer sites that are not rankings for big keywords, it will not likely have a big impact. (lets say if it pushed something from page 5 to page 4 of google)
Anatoliy
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Right now I have First Contentful Paint 3,0 sec (from Google amp cache). Google limit for fast pages - 2.5. I need speed up pages just for 500ms for G considers it fast.
what about that all.css file? Google shows it as only one file that affects page rendering. Can it be edited and served from my server?
what about that all.css file? Google shows it as only one file that affects page rendering. Can it be edited and served from my server?
Masetrix
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I use this to make pages (mobile) faster and google loves and honors fast (mobile) pages.
It is true that the tool (AMP) is not intended for user comfort, but it is a kind of user comfort if you can display some pages faster, or at all, on weaker mobile phones or weak connections.
That's why google launched AMP pages in the first place.
Masetrix
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That may be the case in your case, but the opposite is the case here with us.
That can also be because we have a lot of content and google has indexed our Q&A threads as such.
It is also a fact that before using AMPXF we had marked thousands of (mobile) pages with "poor", pages that are now marked with AMPXF as "good". The result so far: Our clicks have also increased from ~7000 (Nov.) to ~11000 (Feb).
The only change during this time is AMPXF.
So much for your hasty statement...
Mike Fara
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Thus far I am seeing some insane numbers like 400-500% jump in users and sessions on Analytics, but we also had some other issues that were addressed on Friday when I installed this add-on, that may have been causing issues with Analytics. However, I am seeing results, the AMP pages are getting cache'd/Googlebot'd, and overall, numbers are up.That may be the case in your case, but the opposite is the case here with us.
That can also be because we have a lot of content and google has indexed our Q&A threads as such.
It is also a fact that before using AMPXF we had marked thousands of (mobile) pages with "poor", pages that are now marked with AMPXF as "good". The result so far: Our clicks have also increased from ~7000 (Nov.) to ~11000 (Feb).
The only change during this time is AMPXF.
So much for your hasty statement...
mazzly
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I checked your site, and at least the domain is almost 22 years old. So maybe also the case is that older forums fare better with AMP upgrade?
- Is the forum also that old?
One theory could be:
Older sites/domains are probably already competing for positions on the 1st page of google, and AMP pushing 1-2 position upwards helps a lot.
Newer sites/domains might still be on page 2-3 of google results and there even a big (5-10) jump in positions won't do much, as they are still not on first page or top 5 positions, which are known to get the bulk of the clicks.
mazzly
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mazzly updated AMPXF - AMP for Xenforo 2 with a new update entry:
1.3.6
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1.3.6
How to hide a widget from showing up on AMP pages
- Fixed a bug where
<img>-tags with newline in them wasn't replaced with<amp-img>- Added alt text to logo, and aria-label to "logo homepage link". Thanks @briansol for reporting this
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Google ranking factors to change search in 2021: Core Web Vitals, E-A-T, or AMP?
Which of the fresh Google ranking factors will actually influence SEO practice, and which will fade away? Core Web Vitals and more.
www.searchenginewatch.com
Mr. Jinx
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Whether or not this addon bumps traffic to your site, I think it is wrong to use it as a selling point.
The graphs showing great results (https://xenforo.com/community/resources/ampxf-amp-for-xenforo-2.8225/) are not realistic for everyone that decides to use this addon and hoping for the same results.
The graphs showing great results (https://xenforo.com/community/resources/ampxf-amp-for-xenforo-2.8225/) are not realistic for everyone that decides to use this addon and hoping for the same results.
Masetrix
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Google ranking factors to change search in 2021: Core Web Vitals, E-A-T, or AMP?
Which of the fresh Google ranking factors will actually influence SEO practice, and which will fade away? Core Web Vitals and more.
You forgot to mention what will be important for the next few years:
There is hope that XF will ("in the next years") significantly adjust the speed in the mobile view to the speed in the desktop view. Then, but only then, will AMP become superfluous for us.
Until then, however, I'm happy that @mazzly has taken on the topic of AMP.
Masetrix
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Maybe it's the language barrier, but as I understand it.That's funny, that you argue my point of view about the importance of amp pages speed, but you post this:
In other words: pages that are not "fast" by Google criteria, don't have ranking priority, even if they are amp.
You shouldn't "talk" in mocking phrases, but - like me - provide facts that are easy to understand ...
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