XF 2.3 ?
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imno007
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Right, they don't make long posts, and I doubt many of them will be hanging out on our forums any time soon, writing long or short posts, on desktop or mobile. I'm doubtful that the "right tools" that everyone keeps referring to is, whatever exactly they might be, are going to bring them in, because they already have those tools on TikTok and Twitter, etc., and why are they going to spend their time making 20 word posts on Joe Blow's forum when they'd rather post to a potential audience of millions, because they're all narcissists in the making.
Frode789
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Well sure, but they did say just a few months ago that they are still working hard on 2.3, but no ETA on release date. So we do know where they are at.. (working).
So I don't really expect to hear much until the HYS start. And I don't expect them to announce any "estimates" either, based on the previous time they did that (and failed to meet said "deadline").
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Thank you for this communication masterclass @ChrisD.
You have taken the measure of our frustration and in one short message, clear and elegant you reassure us all.
I could wait 3 more years after that.
For XenForo! hip hip hooray!
Forsaken
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Sadly, people expect you to work and be their best friend, therapist and apparently their emotional support animal while they have a cognitive breakdown over the impending doom of XenForo as a company /s.
Wing
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Communication Strategies For Ideal Software Development
The best development partners? Strong communicators. Because you need effective communication when it comes to technical hurdles and production delays.
I have been neutral with this thread since the beginning. But I think we can all agree that effective communication could be important long term with Xenforo and it’s user base. Acting like people need a therapist is a bit unfair tbh.
Forsaken
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...I also said they want Chris and Kier to be emotional support animalsCommunication Strategies For Ideal Software Development
The best development partners? Strong communicators. Because you need effective communication when it comes to technical hurdles and production delays.envylabs.com
I have been neutral with this thread since the beginning. But I think we can all agree that effective communication could be important long term with Xenforo and it’s user base. Acting like people need a therapist is a bit unfair tbh.
. My point was not to say they have mental illnesses (something I do not do in general) but more that people have this expectation of the level of communication that is expected, while also wanting them to work to release the new update.Rather than a therapist, people just need patience and to stop jumping to extreme theories or hyperbole because they want an update sooner than it is ready.
It was also pretty obvious sarcasm/jest, because the use of /s (made sure I used it),
Mouth
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I think it's clear to everyone except the fanbois that XF have several clear problems, causing reputational issues. XF have acknowledged them, but doing nothing about some of them. Either because they're unable to or don't wish to? Further exasperating the reputation and eroding customer loyalty.
In Jan 2022 it was to be delivered in 2022. In Jan 2023, it was to be up to 9 mths away. We're also told that 2.3 will have a significant change that much of 2022 was spend developing, but at the same time, a primary developer spend a significant amount of time on cloud migrations and cloud work instead of XF development. ( Ref: https://xenforo.com/community/threads/xf-2-3.185937/post-1608343 )
Resourcing, communication, product delivery .... 3 important aspects that affect reputation and overall business performance, quickly turning loyal and supportive customers into negative recommendations.
Arantor
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And at the same time we're also told that they do not expect it to impact upgrades which begs the question somewhat of what it could possibly be.
TPerry
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Honestly.. I don't care that much about 2.3.... there are several bugs in the current version that needs resolution, many of which deal with the editor itself.
Mendalla
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OTOH something like replacing the editor is more likely to happen in a 2.x release than a 2.2.x release since it is much more involved than changing a few lines of code like a more typical bug fix. But, yeah, bug fixes are of more interest to me than new features. I won't complain if we get a couple more maintenance releases for 2.2 before 2.3 becomes reality.
Lee
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Something has obviously happened to delay that. Regurgitating something over and over again isn't going to make it happen.
For me problem here isn't the release speed of 2.3, it is the lack of communication from xenForo.
If the development team do not have time to engage (which is fair enough), maybe somebody should be brought in to handle these sorts of things.
For me problem here isn't the release speed of 2.3, it is the lack of communication from xenForo.
If the development team do not have time to engage (which is fair enough), maybe somebody should be brought in to handle these sorts of things.
TPerry
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Not talking about "replacing" the editor.. there is a newer version of the base editor out that is NOT utilized. If it fixes many of the issues, it CAN be rolled into a point release.
I agree that a full editor replacement would be consistent with a x.Y.z release.... but if that's still a ways down the pike, a bug fix x.y.Z release utilizing a more current version of the editor that fixes these issues (even if it introduces some other minor ones that are not as impactful as what we have now) would be appropriate.
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zappaDPJ
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Later versions of the editor contained bugs that probably stopped deployment. Whether that's still the case for the latest version I can't say but I'd like to think part of the delay to 2.3 is due to the editor being completely replaced.
imno007
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Well, there actually has been some mention of replacing the editor - I think it was Chris who said he/they would like to (although it wouldn't be soon, so no, not likely in 2.3) - so I expect that's what will eventually happen. But yeah, maybe the current one will get an upgrade before that happens.
Suzanne O
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Stop with your trolling.
Suzanne O
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That's good.
Can you give us an update on how things are coming along please?
Suzanne O
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Sounds like a demand you want that may not be met.
Just wait and see what happens.
TPerry
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Unless there are drastic changes, upgrading the editor could be rolled into a x.y.Z release. The core is already there. It's not like going from Redactor.
Does the current "new" version of the editor open up other bugs? If they aren't as "earth shattering" as some of the current issues, the upgrade may still be worth it. I have yet to see any editor that has been "bug free".
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