Someone, say, like IBAdrian? God forbid. (I said him because that's exactly who comes to mind when you use the term community manager)I will reiterate once again that XenForo needs a Community Manager. This is the position that talks frequently to Kier, Mike, Ashley, etc., provides them a weekly report of what's going on in the community, and makes posts in reference to what's going on. This would not preclude Kier and Mike from themselves posting, but would provide status reports in the between-times.
I'm sure this has been addressed on the 5 pages I haven't read yet, but your premise is wrong. When you buy a new car, say off Ford. It doesn't give you the right to know what Ford is working on and what's going to be announced or released in the future from Ford.As a commercial forum software (paid) the customers have the right to get proper information about the future of the product regardless any issues that the business is facing.
I will reiterate once again that XenForo needs a Community Manager. This is the position that talks frequently to Kier, Mike, Ashley, etc., provides them a weekly report of what's going on in the community, and makes posts in reference to what's going on. This would not preclude Kier and Mike from themselves posting, but would provide status reports in the between-times.
He means someone like Brogan who is already holding the roll for the most part, but it would probably be better to have a separate person to handle it.Someone, say, like IBAdrian? God forbid. (I said him because that's exactly who comes to mind when you use the term community manager)
It's clear here that what people want is not a roadmap (of course some people do but the majority don't), all they really want some sort of updates to tell us that Xenforo is still here, functioning and growing. To me the perfect solution would be to have either a new forum or a sub-forum in the Announcements forum with a weekly post, maybe highlighting a particularly good add-on or style, maybe showing a site that has done a particularly impressive thing with xenforo, maybe occasionally with some information on how the software is developing or how the lawsuit is taking it's toll. I understand there are only 3 people who actually take a salary from the company but I reckon a post a week between three of them wouldn't be too hard to do, especially if it's just highlighting an addon of the week or whatever.
If possible (but separate from the above) I think it'd be great if the information in Brogan's profile could also be put in a thread in the announcements forum, it'd make it a lot easier to find and as with Brogan's profile at the moment wouldn't promise anything and would just show the important posts from Kier & Mike.
No. Somebody who knows what they're doing (i.e., not a figure-head/puppet).Someone, say, like IBAdrian? ....
the add-on system is really nice(it's not the most modern system but it's great and powerful) but when nobody knows how to use it, it's worth nothing..
Without an "real" developer documentation it's hard to code "great" add-ons (because you need to read the code, etc... if you don't want to code quick and dirty) what is really time consuming(=expensive), and posting the questions in the dev. questions board doesn't solve many problems (just check the dev. board, many threads have 0 answers.. )
So... those other forum scripts you have did not fulfill your community needs? I left vB because it was turning into an advert hoar (boonex) and lost confidents when I heard they outsource to code vB4, but that failed completely.
It is entirely possible to code quick and dirty in XenForo. My first addon consisted of code from vBulletin dropped into an event listener, surrounded in ob_start/ob_get_flush and then rendered via xen:raw. I didn't have a clue what I was doing, but it was certainly easier to get started than vBulletin.
as xenforo was introduced, it was wow and i thought "yea, finally a system for all my existing and new forums"
now after 6 months i'm really "disappointed" and not really sure if it's something for our communities.
it sucks to read all the time "yes it's planned" if somebody asks for features or some modifications for xenforo.com (for example the add-ons & styles board)
it also sucks to read all the time from the fanboys "kier and mike can't do it ATM, they are only 2 developers which have to spend there time with the lawsuite AND the development..." => as a customer i don't care of this......
8 pages and no real useful official postings here..
i bought it because i thought that xenforo is great and not because i wanted to support k&m as many other users here
many basic features are missing, nobody knows when(if) they want be available, nobody from the add-on coders want to code them and without an roadmap (as i said already 100 times, i think the most of the users would be happy with an small roadmap for the next 1-2 releases,..
ok i got non answers on this=> nobody cares, ok i have to live with this.
because i can't live with this, i have to leaf this place.
the add-on system is really nice(it's not the most modern system but it's great and powerful) but when nobody knows how to use it, it's worth nothing..
Without an "real" developer documentation it's hard to code "great" add-ons (because you need to read the code, etc... if you don't want to code quick and dirty) what is really time consuming(=expensive), and posting the questions in the dev. questions board doesn't solve many problems (just check the dev. board, many threads have 0 answers.. )
also IMHO there are max. 3 GREAT and reliable (hope that's the right word) add-on coders which i trust and where i invest my money for custom add-ons.. (i've spent already > 300$on donations for some of the coders here, because they helped my with coding)
IMHO without shamil or xfrocks many great addons wouldn't even exist...
I wish you all the best for the feature, maybe you'll get me in some years back as customer, once things run, as they should...
(yes i know, many fanboys(and girls) will hate me now, but who cares,...)
(yes i know, many fanboys(and girls) will hate me now, but who cares,...)
it also sucks to read all the time from the fanboys "kier and mike can't do it ATM, they are only 2 developers which
have to spend there time with the lawsuite AND the development..." => as a customer i don't care of this......
exactlySo... those other forum scripts you have did not fulfill your community needs
What do you have against Adrian ? (who btw is not a Community Manager).Someone, say, like IBAdrian? God forbid. (I said him because that's exactly who comes to mind when you use the term community manager)
as xenforo was introduced, it was wow and i thought "yea, finally a system for all my existing and new forums"
now after 6 months i'm really "disappointed" and not really sure if it's something for our communities.
it sucks to read all the time "yes it's planned" if somebody asks for features or some modifications for xenforo.com (for example the add-ons & styles board)
it also sucks to read all the time from the fanboys "kier and mike can't do it ATM, they are only 2 developers which have to spend there time with the lawsuite AND the development..." => as a customer i don't care of this......
8 pages and no real useful official postings here..
i bought it because i thought that xenforo is great and not because i wanted to support k&m as many other users here
many basic features are missing, nobody knows when(if) they want be available, nobody from the add-on coders want to code them and without an roadmap (as i said already 100 times, i think the most of the users would be happy with an small roadmap for the next 1-2 releases,..
ok i got non answers on this=> nobody cares, ok i have to live with this.
because i can't live with this, i have to leaf this place.
the add-on system is really nice(it's not the most modern system but it's great and powerful) but when nobody knows how to use it, it's worth nothing..
Without an "real" developer documentation it's hard to code "great" add-ons (because you need to read the code, etc... if you don't want to code quick and dirty) what is really time consuming(=expensive), and posting the questions in the dev. questions board doesn't solve many problems (just check the dev. board, many threads have 0 answers.. )
also IMHO there are max. 3 GREAT and reliable (hope that's the right word) add-on coders which i trust and where i invest my money for custom add-ons.. (i've spent already > 300$on donations for some of the coders here, because they helped my with coding)
IMHO without shamil or xfrocks many great addons wouldn't even exist...
I wish you all the best for the feature, maybe you'll get me in some years back as customer, once things run, as they should...
(yes i know, many fanboys(and girls) will hate me now, but who cares,...)
...because i can't live with this, i have to leaf this place.
I wish you all the best for the feature, maybe you'll get me in some years back as customer, once things run, as they should...
(yes i know, many fanboys(and girls) will hate me now, but who cares,...)
I'm sure this has been addressed on the 5 pages I haven't read yet, but your premise is wrong. When you buy a new car, say off Ford. It doesn't give you the right to know what Ford is working on and what's going to be announced or released in the future from Ford.
Although there are some who are holding off buying a license until they know what features are coming.Big difference is that when you buy a new car you buy it as is, you get the finished product and ford are not going to send you new bits of the car that have been updated.
Their future plans don't have any effect on what you've bought.
Wow, did I step into some hornet's nest or what??
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