Wordpress Drama
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eva2000
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The pettiness Matt shows is truly amazing !
RobinHood
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Another long term plugin left .org, and was then threatened by Matt in the form of taking over their old listing
www.paidmembershipspro.com
Leaving WordPress.org: What It Means for PMPro Users
This post details our decision to self-host the Paid Memberships Pro plugin and close the .org repository listing on October 17, 2024.
www.paidmembershipspro.com
Forsaken
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I'm wondering if he's going to retaliate against people who leave by banning them from Wordpress.org, and also from WordCamp, which he has already done to a few people.Another long term plugin left .org, and was then threatened by Matt in the form of taking over their old listing
Leaving WordPress.org: What It Means for PMPro Users
This post details our decision to self-host the Paid Memberships Pro plugin and close the .org repository listing on October 17, 2024.
Suzanne O
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Would be interesting if wordpress ban his account
RobinHood
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Possibly. My last link seems even weird than usual. I'm not familiar with the plugin, but at a glance it seems like a free core version that was in the .org repot, with some pretty pricey premium versions to get enhanced features.
What was Matt's plan exactly? To re-rerelease the free version under his own name and magically code up the gaps between the free and premium? Steal the premium version too due to the GPL licencing of WP plugins, like those GPL sites that take premium plugins and distribute them for free? Or just host a crippled free entry level version of the plugin with no upgrade path just to spite the authors?
All because they politely and discretely pulled their plugin from the repot without a song and dance, which they're well within their right to do so?
Bizzaro behaviour.
What was Matt's plan exactly? To re-rerelease the free version under his own name and magically code up the gaps between the free and premium? Steal the premium version too due to the GPL licencing of WP plugins, like those GPL sites that take premium plugins and distribute them for free? Or just host a crippled free entry level version of the plugin with no upgrade path just to spite the authors?
All because they politely and discretely pulled their plugin from the repot without a song and dance, which they're well within their right to do so?
Bizzaro behaviour.
Forsaken
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That's exactly what ACF and ACF Pro were; he would remove the add-on, remove the upsells and branding, and then let it languish without development.
Arantor
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So far, and I must stress the “so far” part, host a crippled free version with no upgrade path to spite the authors who do not contribute (for Matt’s specific definition of contribute) enough back to the community, because they pulled their plug-in which drew attention to them.
Announcing it (which sadly you have to do) draws attention. And Matt has history of being petty against those who don’t toe the line his way. He has limited interest in doing anything for the community or in the interests of the users.
But he hasn’t yet claimed a premium plug-in which will be a new level of pain if he does go there. He has always been able to (because the GPL lets him) but until now he said he wouldn’t. Who knows where this rollercoaster’s going?
eva2000
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WTF. Matt is now threatening Wordpress plugin developers with stealing their plugins like he did with ACF Advanced Custom Fields if they pull their plugins from wordpress.org https://www.reddit.com/r/Wordpress/s/vBzrry8pZD
RobinHood
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Mullenweg threatens to take over Paid Memberships Pro
Matt Mullenweg has threatened to take over Paid Memberships Pro (PMPro) in the WordPress.org plugin repository.
www.therepository.email
Ricsca
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Mullenweg threatens to take over Paid Memberships Pro
Matt Mullenweg has threatened to take over Paid Memberships Pro (PMPro) in the WordPress.org plugin repository.
This may seem annoying but Matt has every right to create a similar plugin and put it on WordPress since PMP doesn't want to be there anymore...
yes, but not stealing other people's work by hiding behind a GPL license.
Ricsca
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A plugin uploaded to wordpress.org is open source so it means anyone can redo it! Since the person who did it first doesn't want it to be on WordPress.org anymore and Matt decides to redo it I would say that it is even a service he does to the community,
Arantor
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If it's all about services to the community why doesn't he just upload every paid plugin to the directory because they're all open source (because they have to be)?
Because it's nothing to do with 'service to the community' and more 'screwing people over who dare to disagree with him'
Ricsca
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@Arantor on WordPress.org there are no paid plugins because WordPress is open source and therefore free!
Despite this, WordPress has never denied developers to let it know that they can buy the Pro Plugin version that can download for free!
There are those who have gained millions by paying pro of plugin versions that have made known free of charge thanks to the WordPress bookcase and if they decide to remove them from WordPress, Matt would be the bad because he refers and put them back available to everyone?
Despite this, WordPress has never denied developers to let it know that they can buy the Pro Plugin version that can download for free!
There are those who have gained millions by paying pro of plugin versions that have made known free of charge thanks to the WordPress bookcase and if they decide to remove them from WordPress, Matt would be the bad because he refers and put them back available to everyone?
Arantor
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OK, let's take this very slowly.
WordPress is GPL licensed. This requires, amongst other things, that everything that interfaces with it directly is also GPL licensed.
Every single premium plugin and theme is open source because it has to be. There is nothing stopping Matt getting any paid plugin he wants and putting it on there.
The only reason he doesn't is because he knows if he does, everyone will leave and not trust WordPress again. That's the only reason, and that's only ever been the reason.
WordPress is GPL licensed. This requires, amongst other things, that everything that interfaces with it directly is also GPL licensed.
Every single premium plugin and theme is open source because it has to be. There is nothing stopping Matt getting any paid plugin he wants and putting it on there.
The only reason he doesn't is because he knows if he does, everyone will leave and not trust WordPress again. That's the only reason, and that's only ever been the reason.
Starbucks
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If you’re going any slower with that, you might as well pull over and let the gameboy pass you by.
Ricsca
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Matt is not interested in dealing with thousands of other people's plugins also because he would not have the resources but if others try to be smart, he has no problem forking the plugin... apart from PMPro's suicidal move, I don't think many will follow him... Also because everyone depends 100% on wp which is Matt's
Forsaken
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Damnit, nap time is apparently over, and now we get to deal with the toddler again.
FTFY. I think releasing resources anywhere is basically just signing yourself into slavery. I still have an old client (who I refunded a year later as I never wanted to deal with them again) who still tries to harass me to do work for them.
FTFY. I think releasing resources anywhere is basically just signing yourself into slavery. I still have an old client (who I refunded a year later as I never wanted to deal with them again) who still tries to harass me to do work for them.
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