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Why share buttons are at the bottom of a thread?

Discussion in 'General XenForo Discussion and Feedback' started by Claudio, Nov 10, 2011.

  1. Claudio

    Claudio Well-Known Member

    I think that they are not visible because you have to scroll to the bottom of the page to see them.

    Are any plans to move it or insert the share buttons for example under the title of the thread or at the top of the thread?
  2. Carlos

    Carlos Well-Known Member

    I think it's a great place t0 implement a "share" page...

    I think that the staff at xF thinks that it doesn't look good when implemented on the "top of the page." I think they think it would look ugly.

    And I agree. It would. The only way it would not look ugly is removing the "share this page" and the line under it, put it under thread title/description.

    The only time the share buttons look great at top is Jaxel's xenPorta.
  3. TheRevTastic

    TheRevTastic Well-Known Member

    Why share stuff you haven't read yet to know if you want to even share the thread in the first place?
    JVCode, Brandon Sheley and Floris like this.
  4. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Well-Known Member

    Personally I prefer the share buttons at the top... While I *do* agree with the point about why would you share something if you haven't read it yet... there are other non-thread pages that also have share buttons (like the forum home) as well as pages that have no share button (but I think they should), like the forum page listing threads.

    Now, if we had the share buttons on ALL pages, I think it would be best to have a place for them that's consistent across all pages... which means it can't go in the sidebar (not all pages have a sidebar). And for forum category pages and the forum home page it doesn't make sense to put them at the bottom.

    Also, usually when you read a thread you know if you like/don't like it when you START reading it. It doesn't take you to the end of every word in it to normally decide if you like it or not.

    You can see what I mean on http://forums.digitalpoint.com/ we have a universal placement for it that includes non-thread pages...

    Forum category: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/forumdisplay.php?f=52
    Products: http://products.digitalpoint.com/vbulletin-sphinx-search.php
    Tools: http://tools.digitalpoint.com/tracker.php

    It doesn't make much sense to put the share buttons on the bottom of the non-thread pages... and at the same time we have the placement in the same location across all pages for sake of consistency.
  5. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    It's a simple template edit to move them to the top of the page.

    I prefer them where they are, it's a less cluttered look and keeps the emphasis on the content.

    Conversely, if you do read something to the end and decide you want to share it, you have to scroll back up.
  6. mrGTB

    mrGTB Well-Known Member

    Your better having them located at the bottom, because if they are slow loading at least the rest of the page has a chance to load-up first before them.
  7. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Well-Known Member

    You make the JS fo them load last regardless of placement (at least you should).
  8. ragtek

    ragtek Guest

    AFAIK the share related js stuff is already loaded AFTER the page load... (you can see this in xenforo.js in the init method )
  9. mrGTB

    mrGTB Well-Known Member

    I believe you both, I ain't no coder like you two. :)
  10. Claudio

    Claudio Well-Known Member

    Nobody pay attention to the footer or what is below the reply box.. thats the true
  11. Forsaken

    Forsaken Well-Known Member

    Chances are people will know the share buttons are down there, and if they want to share, they'll use them.
  12. Claudio

    Claudio Well-Known Member

    An example:
    189 thanks..
    38 like it on Facebook
    10 shared on Twitter
    4 shared in Google+

    Statistics... less "shares" and more thanks (because the thank link is easy to click and its well located). The situation is repeated over and over..simply watch the most viewed threads on XF and you will se a huge number of thanks and only a few "shares"

    You will scroll to the bottom of the page to like a thread?.. me not..
    What I saying is that XF should consider to move the default location of those buttons
  13. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

  14. TheRevTastic

    TheRevTastic Well-Known Member

    XenForo likes have nothing to do with Twitter shares, facebook likes, etc.

    If by going what you're saying then the share links should be after every post as that's where the xenforo likes link is.
  15. Carlos

    Carlos Well-Known Member

    Perfect Question.
    Andrej likes this.
  16. Claudio

    Claudio Well-Known Member

    You share the thread, not the posts... So I´m suggesting to move the shared buttons to under the thread title
  17. Claudio

    Claudio Well-Known Member

    In that case...why the share buttons are under the reply box if I´m not going to reply?

    Thinking of your question, I have another... why to repeat Discussion in 'General XenForo Discussion and Feedback' started by Claudio Ba, Yesterday at 10:17 PM.
    if I already see where is the thread posted?
    Sin título.jpg
  18. Carlos

    Carlos Well-Known Member

    But then again... Why would you share the thread if you didn't read the original post, or the thread's posts...?

    When reading a thread, you're almost like reading a magazine or a book, so those share buttons on the bottom is like saying "Hey guys, I like this article!"

    I understand that these calls to actions aren't inspiring sharing. That's the only thing that makes me think.

    The only people using the share buttons are the people that want to make that site successful, I.E. Mods and Admins.
  19. Fuhrmann

    Fuhrmann Well-Known Member

  20. Claudio

    Claudio Well-Known Member

    Exactly! they like the article! So after read the first post or thread they say "wow..I like this article, I´m going to share it"... but I dont understand the purpose to scroll down to the footer to share the page. See examples on any other blogs or forums, they have the share buttons at the top or under the title

    hoo...you are so wrong...have you ever used a Facebook account? I think you dont understand the concept of share something..
    Look at http://mashable.com/ how many people use the share buttons...only admins?...come on..

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