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Tapatalk and Forum Runner

Discussion in 'Forum Management' started by Summit, Aug 6, 2014.

  1. Summit

    Summit Active Member

    So, I have a mobile style and everything works great with it. However, some users say they want it on Tapatalk. Is tapatalk worth the installation. I feel like forum runner has been dead ever since VB bought it, and users must purchase the app. Thanks!
     
  2. RoldanLT

    RoldanLT Well-Known Member

    XF Responsive Feature > Tapatalk > Forum runner
     
  3. Renegade

    Renegade Well-Known Member

    Are those users important to you? Will they go to a competing forum for ease of use via tapatalk?

    Unfortunately Tapatalk is more convenient than any other way to access forums on the mobile. I say unfortunately coz I do not want to install something I have no control over. But I have and I use the app myself. Simply coz browsing through the responsive skin is not as convenient for me
     
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  4. petertdavis

    petertdavis Well-Known Member

    I'd say forget Forum Runner, I used to be a big fan of theirs till Internet Brands/vBulletin bought it out. Responsive design for mobile browsers is a good idea whether or not you use TapaTalk (or any other app). There are upsides and downsides that go along with TapaTalk, and it's in your best interest to understand what you're getting into before you install it. It does some things I don't like, such as the popup that advertises the TapaTalk app when people browse your site in mobile. I do recognize that TapaTalk is making an effort to work with us forum owners though, for example in the latest TapaTalk release for XF they've included an option to turn off those popup ads. I'd rather have it an opt-in instead of an opt-out, but giving the option is a step in the right direction (we had to edit their templates in the past to prevent it).
     
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  5. Summit

    Summit Active Member

    It was more of a suggestion and I really haven't used it so thought I would ask.

    So this is to everyone, would you say put it in, or just leave it out?
     
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  6. Renegade

    Renegade Well-Known Member

    Personally if its just a suggestion then I say leave it out. Its hard to go back once you move ahead with it.
     
  7. Mr Lucky

    Mr Lucky Well-Known Member

    I left it out after converting from vB. I had one or two whingers, but I suggested they give the responsive design a chance and they seemed happy enough.

    Tapatalk is just one complication too much and vey much more difficult to style if you want to have some kind of unique identity to the way your forum looks.

    I did a little bit of customising to add a new posts link more obvious for mobiles, which made the mobile users happy.
     
  8. Chimpie

    Chimpie Well-Known Member

    If you're referring to the site in your signature, it looks good on my Samsung Galaxy S3. It takes a little bit to load, but it's not too bad.

    We're having the same debate on whether to install TT when we convert to XF this weekend. We have SO MANY users access our forum now using TT, and they also use TT to access other forums. If we didn't install it we might lose their interest.
     
  9. shawn

    shawn Well-Known Member

    Our users despised the responsive style. Love tapatalk. But from an administration standpoint, tapatalk is terrible. Be prepared to deal with all sorts of bugs and user issues that are actually tapatalk issues.
     
  10. melbo

    melbo Well-Known Member

    If I could go back in time, I would have never installed TT
     
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  11. Summit

    Summit Active Member

    Ok, will not install then. Thanks guys!
     
  12. Floyd R Turbo

    Floyd R Turbo Well-Known Member

    I have a hard time understanding the "despise the responsive design" argument. I just don't get it. TT is handy when you want to pop back and forth between multiple forums and get push alerts. For that reason, for me personally, it's hard to give up. But on here, where it's not available, I do just fine.
     
  13. tommydamic68

    tommydamic68 Well-Known Member

    The majority of my users use - love Tapatalk, its a must for mobile users, people on the fly (isn't that everybody at this point in time in the world?) Responsive style is not a replacement at all, not even close. I myself cannot stand Tapatalk as a user, as an admin, it has never really given me a problem.

    The bottom line is, mobile is where the world is, especially in the internet world and social media which forums pretty much are now a days, its not who you have now currently on your forum who use Tapatalk or do not use it, its future members who will use your site because you do offer an effective mobile solution, responsive is not the answer.

    Yes, you will get your commandos here complaining about Tapatalk and how horrible it is, thats fine, thats there decision to limit their forum growth, just my honest opinion.
     
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  14. Tracy Perry

    Tracy Perry Well-Known Member

    There have been many a problem with Tapatalk - some of which were major (they are getting better with their responsiveness now), but on of the other issues is the monetization method if you don't have a branded app from them. If you site depends on ads, then the more Tapatalk users you have the bigger your ding will be in comparison to responsive access.
     
  15. tommydamic68

    tommydamic68 Well-Known Member

    Yes- that is true.
     
  16. Ingenious

    Ingenious Well-Known Member

    I'm still a bit unclear as to what you get when you have a branded app (assume this is "build your own" where you pay a monthly fee for Android and iOS?) over the stock one. I'd still want to give the app free to users and have advertisers shoulder the cost. Does it mean I can customise the look with my own logo and colours? What about adding in my own proprietary banner adverts (I sell direct in my niche and never use a third party ad service)?

    For me so far my objections to TT:

    1. Don't like, and little control over the stock look.
    2. Possibility of 3rd party adverts - none of which are of interest in my specialist niche and all of which lessen the impact of my own advertisers who don't appear in TT.
    3. Poor/no response to threads in the official support forums.
    4. Lack of trust in the product, thanks to 3. above and occasional security issues.

    But I agree that an app-based solution, alongside responsive, is the best of both worlds.
     
  17. shawn

    shawn Well-Known Member

    The responsive style means you don't have to zoom and pan, but you gain that ability at the expense of not being able to see a lot of other useful information. That's why they don't like it.

    Go to the "Have You Seen?" forum on your phone. Tell me who was the last person to reply to the "More Moderator Tools" thread, or at what time they replied to it.
     
  18. Martok

    Martok Well-Known Member

    Indeed that is hidden in responsive. However, I'd rather have that than not be able to see font styling (font type, colours, size, bold, italic, underline, strikethrough etc) as well as the myriad of other functionality (especially those of add-ons) that Tapatalk doesn't provide.
     
  19. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    The default layouts at the various widths can be modified by editing the various CSS classes.
     
  20. shawn

    shawn Well-Known Member

    It's not a binary choice. You can turn off responsive styling, which is what we ended up doing.

    Yeah, I tried that. It ended in heartache and tears. Who has time for that nonsense?

    Is there a "how to fix the default responsive layout" tutorial? If not, there should be.
     

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