Nirjonadda
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I'm on Sparkpost and happy for about a year. Just missing the email notification for bounces.
I haven't searched back but anyone use postmarkapp?
Getting delivery to work is one thing.
Avoiding treatment as junk/spam is the REAL hurdle. I would pay for an application that gave me the ability to see if gmail, yahoo, ymail, AOL, or anything Microsoft (hotmail, msn, outlook, live, q, etc) placed one of my forum's message into the junk mail folder. That's the big hole here. I have to explicitly tell people to look in junk/spam (online, where the filtering happens, not in the phone or PC client) and then instruct them how to add filters or add to safe senders lists to prevent that kind of treatment
I can send out 20 emails to a guy on hotmail and he'll get them all. But then if I compose a long message with a bunch of links, that gets flagged as spam even though my SPF and DKIM and rDNS is all golden, that $#@% doesn't mean a thing apparently.
I use postmark. Really good service and nice dashboard.
Does postmarkapp allow you view email log ? Sending email subject and body? Do you get dedicated IP?
Yes, in great detail.
No dedicated IP, not needed.
The API let's you return bounce events. I'm going to make a job that calls the API to process "bounces" and then update the user table to a "bounced" state.
What do you think? They have webhooks, but since XF doesn't have an API going that route isn't really possible without a middleware to process those entries.
I actually have a solution for SparkPost bounce processing I've been running for several years now which has been working well - but it's a little complicated to set up and the webhook endpoint is actually a Laravel application which simply stores the data in a database with a separate process to actually send the data from Laravel to XF via a webhook I built into my SparkPost XF addon.
Update, I'm now using mailgun and so far looking good.
Correction, now looking bad. Lots of fails with mailgun due to IP:
Server response: 522 email sent from 184.173.153.38 found on industry IP blacklists on 2018/02/26 22:40:10 GMT, please contact your mail sending service or use an alternate email service to send your email. Guide for bulk senders www.bt.com/bulksender
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Until someone can show me a tool that tells me if an email that was sent ended up on junk/spam on a freebie webmail service, the fact that an email got delivered doesn't tell me much.
If an email gets clicked, yeah that tells me something.
If I can see how many mails to yahoo or hotmail didn't get clicked, that gives me an idea of what went to junk/spam.
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I've read this topic but loads of providers changed their offerings by now (for the worse or better?), is there a definitive list of easy to use & not too expensive providers? I checked out Amazon SES but I saw that some people have issues with spam folders. I'd love it if the provider could easily integrate with the XF mail bounce feature and potentially give us a few statistics here and there in their dedicated mailing panel + maybe allow us to host multiple emails for individual staff members.
Any suggestions are welcome.
Correction, now looking bad. Lots of fails with mailgun due to IP:
Server response: 522 email sent from 184.173.153.38 found on industry IP blacklists on 2018/02/26 22:40:10 GMT, please contact your mail sending service or use an alternate email service to send your email. Guide for bulk senders www.bt.com/bulksender
This. Here's the issue I see with all of these 3rd party providers. They share IPs with other sites, and you then fall prone to getting co-labelled a spammer.If you're sending enough emails each month (minimum 100K, preferably 200K+), it would be worth paying for your own dedicated IP address and carefully warming it up to improve your deliverability.
If you're sending enough emails each month (minimum 100K, preferably 200K+), it would be worth paying for your own dedicated IP address and carefully warming it up to improve your deliverability.
Correction, now looking bad. Lots of fails with mailgun due to IP:
Server response: 522 email sent from 184.173.153.38 found on industry IP blacklists on 2018/02/26 22:40:10 GMT, please contact your mail sending service or use an alternate email service to send your email. Guide for bulk senders www.bt.com/bulksender
No well it's only about 20k. I'd be Ok with paying something monthly, but what is the monthly charge for a your own dedicated IP? Looks like it's $59 with Mailgun which I cannot justify.
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