badstraw360
Member
Hey guys Im using mailgun, do you know how to set up a bounce email address using that service?
So with Mandrill going premium, what are some alternatives?
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Mr Lucky
Well-known member
I'm not so sure about sendgrid now
I recently found sendgrid blocking quite a lot of emails. I contacted them with the info from the log:
Their support came back wit a stock response that the problem was that IP was shared hosting and so could be blacklisted due to another user on the same server.
I responded that the IP in question (167.89.12.138), according to whois.arin.net Is a sendgrid IP, not my server.
Net Range 167.89.0.0 - 167.89.127.255
CIDR 167.89.0.0/17
Name SENDGRID04
Handle NET-167-89-0-0-1
No response yet.
I recently found sendgrid blocking quite a lot of emails. I contacted them with the info from the log:
Code:
550 "JunkMail rejected - o1678912x138.outbound-mail.sendgrid.net [167.89.12.138]:34514 is in an RBL, see Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?167.89.12.13Their support came back wit a stock response that the problem was that IP was shared hosting and so could be blacklisted due to another user on the same server.
I responded that the IP in question (167.89.12.138), according to whois.arin.net Is a sendgrid IP, not my server.
Net Range 167.89.0.0 - 167.89.127.255
CIDR 167.89.0.0/17
Name SENDGRID04
Handle NET-167-89-0-0-1
No response yet.
What errors did you get? We might be able to help.
Floyd R Turbo
Well-known member
I could have sworn I posted something the other day
I was using Mandrill and right before I cancelled it because of the cost, the IP they were sending from got blacklisted and the messages being sent were getting rejected or something. Anyways, gone.
Now I'm back to using the default XF mail, will just deal with it for now.
On one of my sites though I have to (not my decision) have to deal with GoDaddy and their relay servers, which means all mail is delayed by about 4 minutes. Until I can switch servers I am looking for a mandrill-like option.
I've looked briefly at SAS but from the forum it sounds like they have the same horrid problems with mail delivery being delayed and blacklisted IPs. So what is the general feedback on these other alternatives?
Speed of mail delivery?
Reliability of mail delivery, i.e. not going to yahoo and hotmail spam (as well as gmail and AOL sometimes too)?
Floyd R Turbo
Well-known member
Define "smaller" if you don't mind. Like, # of emails sent out per day or per month?
Skylined
Well-known member
You should use them if:
Every week I send emails to inactive users, newsletters from time to time and big events notifications.
- You're on a shared hosting, The IP might get blacklisted because of another site.
- You send large batches, like newsletters or any other kind of mass email.
- You just don't trust/like your hosting's email service.
Every week I send emails to inactive users, newsletters from time to time and big events notifications.
Floyd R Turbo
Well-known member
My biggest question is if any of these improve deliverability of forum email to hotmail (any Microsoft) and yahoo. Those are the biggest problem users. Next is probably Apple anything because they don't allow users to whitelist. The. AOL which seems to be less of a problem, and last is gmail which still is up there.
The there are all the cable providers like Comcast and Mediacom, as well as Verizon.
That dang grey listing and whatever else these companies use seem to almost jail all forum emails really easily. Even if I have a dedicated IP, which I do.
One is on a reseller account and the other is a VPS, both with deliverability issues. It's maddening.
The there are all the cable providers like Comcast and Mediacom, as well as Verizon.
That dang grey listing and whatever else these companies use seem to almost jail all forum emails really easily. Even if I have a dedicated IP, which I do.
One is on a reseller account and the other is a VPS, both with deliverability issues. It's maddening.
mikelowrey
Active member
Care to share the knowledge
Also, I noticed there is several website that offers free, what about doing a poll to see what are the top ones?
TPerry
Well-known member
Well, you haveCare to share the knowledge
Mail in a Box
IRedmail
And just about any Linux distribution with a manual MTA setup on it for your domain(s). Preferably using virtual domains.
You mean like Gmail Apps, Mandril, and the others... That's what this discussion thread is about. And remember, free is typically not truly free. Look what happened with Mandril.
mikelowrey
Active member
Totally agree I simply wanted to put out that by doing a poll others user can see which option are more used than the other ones 
Dibya Prakash
Member
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Floyd R Turbo
Well-known member
I've been using Pepipost for about a month now on 2 sites and it's been pretty good. They are quick to help with setup, configuration, and troubleshooting issues. Their control panel is pretty straight forward, I found a few bugs and reported them, not sure if they have fixed or not (nothing serious, just unexpected action/etc)
Their bounce handler does work with XF but the only thing I haven't quite been able to figure out is their blacklisting system. I'm not sure yet exactly how to configure XF bound handler so that it works "together" but essentially Pepipost will blacklist an email under certain conditions and this does not necessarily translate to the forum account going to "email invalid (bounced)", so on the forum side, it may appear that an email/account is still valid because it hasn't bounced X number of times in X number of days etc but it might be blacklisted on Pepipost, so the message will get sent from the forum and then stopped there with no report back to XF saying that it was stopped. So these need to be synchronized somehow, or you need to manually check the blacklist.
I don't know how big of an issue this is for me personally but I can see it being a problem on a big board. Because you can't remove an address off the blacklist, you can only move it to the whitelist.
Their bounce handler does work with XF but the only thing I haven't quite been able to figure out is their blacklisting system. I'm not sure yet exactly how to configure XF bound handler so that it works "together" but essentially Pepipost will blacklist an email under certain conditions and this does not necessarily translate to the forum account going to "email invalid (bounced)", so on the forum side, it may appear that an email/account is still valid because it hasn't bounced X number of times in X number of days etc but it might be blacklisted on Pepipost, so the message will get sent from the forum and then stopped there with no report back to XF saying that it was stopped. So these need to be synchronized somehow, or you need to manually check the blacklist.
I don't know how big of an issue this is for me personally but I can see it being a problem on a big board. Because you can't remove an address off the blacklist, you can only move it to the whitelist.
