Sex Offender Signs Publicly Identify Convicted Predators In Florida

We just had a scumbag a-hole rape, molest and beat up 4 primary schools girls AT SCHOOL in a covered walkway. They haven't caught the scum yet but anybody who would ever feel sorry for this guy is nuts. I would personally like to see sex offender tattooed on this a-holes forehead for all to see for ever more.
 
And yet you assume they are going to be threatened by neighbors. If anything, I would see them being completely avoided and ignored. Yes, depending on location.
 
Jake Bunce said:
Don't forget to wear your star of david.
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Adam Howard said:
We're already there :(

Police here and else where in the country setup random check points where you're subject to identify yourself and show your documentation.
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They do it in my 9 sq mile town under the guise of DUI checks...goes like this..

-Evening officer

Have you been drinking..

- I have not done any drinking for the past....10 or 15 years.

Alright then, where are you coming from

- My home (any answer other than a 20 and you are getting out of the car and charged with interference or disorderly or whatever)

Where are you headed to

- My friends house (any answer other than a 20 and you are getting out of the car and charged with interference or disorderly or whatever)

Where is that

- around the way near ESPN (hopefully they have already bagged a few people and this satisfies )

What are you guys going to be doing tonight

- hanging out (this is never enough info)

Any partying?

- yeah we party up with friends online and play COD but like I said before I don't party officer.

Ok I just need to check out your license and reg really quick sit tight.

-sure thing ( because I am going to take off with 20 cars blocking both lanes in front of me and with 200-400 cars behind me. :rolleyes: )

Ok your info checks out be safe and stay off the road if you can.

- Thanks officer? have a splendid evening


For those that don't believe me....this is what happens when you put checkpoints that blindside people on a main road that leaves town and is a direct route to the local hospital and cause a stretch of road that should take 30 seconds to cross and make it take 15 minutes to 40 minutes pending how many arrests are being made at that moment and more to the point this is how you spin a good cover story.

http://www.wfsb.com/story/14894782/baby-born-at-plainville-dui-checkpoint-5-01-2011

Anyways this case it was birth and not a severely sick or wounded individual driving themselves to the hospital. By stopping every car without cause you are basically giving yourself blanket arrest powers. Just stop em all and sort em out later, YAY CLOSED MARKET ECONOMY!

I think I misunderstand the term...."Protect and Serve"o_O
 
There's a huge difference between being concerned about the over reach of a local government and the perceived protection of an offender. There's a reason why laws are written they way they are, and stepping outside the confines of the law should be the concern of everyone.
 
Biker said:
There's a huge difference between being concerned about the over reach of a local government and the perceived protection of an offender. There's a reason why laws are written they way they are, and stepping outside the confines of the law should be the concern of everyone.
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If laws were enforced we would not see sex offender get 2 months in prison or in most cases let off because of the lack of room in prisons. We wouldn't see celebrity abusers allowed to get away with it abusing children for decades and be knighted for it.

In a nutshell the law is not enforced. Even when there is DNA evidence to back this up.
 
Shelley said:
I see you and the majority are bring in politics into this thread. What a bunch of selfish, self serving people.

I dunno what is worse about humanity, the people that abuse children or the people that protect the offenders and turn a blind eye to it.
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Nobody (well, at least not me) is talking about protecting the abuser. What I am concerned about is the rise in violent crime as a result of these signs. I know if they were deployed in my neighborhood (North East England) these people would be targeted and probably assaulted / worse. This gives the police more to do as there would then be further arrests to be made and more prosecutions for the court to deal with.

Not to mention what would happen to the value of local property and the connotations for the entire area where the person is homed.

I'm all for a publicly accessed register, so we can see where these people live if we wish, but a blatant signage like this is dangerous to say the least.

Don't get me started on what I feel the initial punishment should be for these types of crimes, as what is currently served is nowhere near harsh enough.
 
Lee said:
Nobody (well, at least not me) is talking about protecting the abuser. What I am concerned about is the rise in violent crime as a result of these signs. I know if they were deployed in my neighborhood (North East England) these people would be targeted and probably assaulted / worse. This gives the police more to do as there would then be further arrests to be made and more prosecutions for the court to deal with.

Not to mention what would happen to the value of local property and the connotations for the entire area where the person is homed.

I'm all for a publicly accessed register, so we can see where these people live if we wish, but a blatant signage like this is dangerous to say the least.

Don't get me started on what I feel the initial punishment should be for these types of crimes, as what is currently served is nowhere near harsh enough.
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Which is why I said self serving and selfish. If your concern is property value falling over the welfare of a child and the signs serve as a warning for children and parent then this in my opinion is a good thing to educate. A SO worst fear is loosing their anonymity so they can conduct their disgusting habits and this will name and shame the worst of them who have offended multiple times. It may not stop them but it does serve as a warning and allows people to be aware that their is a Predator living in the area.

Down at one of the local schools a few feet from the school gates they have SO housed there. This just shows how badly both the LAW and people turn a blind eye and don't see this is an issue.

Castrate the *******s. That'll stop them.
 
Shelley said:
Which is why I said self serving and selfish. If your concern is property value falling over the welfare of a child and the signs serve as a warning for children and parent then this in my opinion is a good thing to educate. A SO worst fear is loosing their anonymity so they can conduct their disgusting habits and this will name and shame the worst of them who have offended multiple times. It may not stop them but it does serve as a warning and allows people to be aware that their is a Predator living in the area.

Down at one of the local schools a few feet from the school gates they have SO housed there. This just shows how badly both the LAW and people turn a blind eye and don't see this is an issue.

Castrate the *******s. That'll stop them.
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Agree with the last part of your post.

Disagree with the selfish part, as I said my main concern would be the rise in crime (which would happen, 100%).

There has to be a re-think in the sentencing of these people. Can they reform? I personally don't think so, so we either keep them locked up forever, or do something more....extreme.
 
stewart1champ said:
You cannot say 100% it will happen. It has yet to be seen.
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Fair comment. I'll rephrase that then;


Disagree with the selfish part, as I said my main concern would be the rise in crime (which would happen, in my opinion).
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Everyone has their own opinions, which is why politics can be so controversial.

Personally, I believe dealing with this people properly at sentencing is a better method, ie - no release, ever. (and please, no tv's and computers etc, thats just silly!)
 
dutchbb said:
This is a typical shortsighted response from someone who doesn't understand the real issues at hand. I will leave it at this. Probably not the place for this.
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Really, I mean really? You are concerned with sex offenders being discriminated and I am shortsighted? There is something seriously wrong with you.
 
Shelley said:
I see you and the majority are bring in politics into this thread. What a bunch of selfish, self serving people.

I dunno what is worse about humanity, the people that abuse children or the people that protect the offenders and turn a blind eye to it.
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From someone who has actually stepped into Washington DC .....

I've not yet meat a member of The House, Senate, or Oval Office who wasn't self serving.

The cold hard fact is...

Politics = Laws
Lobbyist = Laws

It shouldn't be that way, but it is. You're blissfully naive if you don't think things happen that way.

And I'm not big on protecting the guilty, but rather protecting the innocent, which may include the innocent who are called guilty. I'm also big on protecting equal and fair justice. Or do you not believe in equal and fair justice?
 
No, shortsighted is not seeing the issue for what it is and not being able to get past the crime.

The individual served his sentence. What part of the law states that punishment can continue past what the law provides? And where is it specified that a local government can take matters into their own hands outside of the law and post a sign in someone's yard? Where does it stop? Will they start identifying shoplifters next? How about jaywalkers. Oh hell, let's post a sign for someone that gets a parking ticket. That'll show 'em they mean business.
 
I've stepped into Washington D.C., the White House, etc. Your point in including that? Just because she is from the UK and possibly may not have "stepped into Washington DC" her opinion means jack squat?

Nice Mr. Howard. So much for "equal and fair" everything else, eh?
 
Biker said:
No, shortsighted is not seeing the issue for what it is and not being able to get past the crime.

The individual served his sentence. What part of the law states that punishment can continue past what the law provides? And where is it specified that a local government can take matters into their own hands outside of the law and post a sign in someone's yard? Where does it stop? Will they start identifying shoplifters next? How about jaywalkers. Oh hell, let's post a sign for someone that gets a parking ticket. That'll show 'em they mean business.
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Who is to say that wasn't included as part of the punishment? I have seen a judge have a man stand at a busy freeway for 4 weekends holding a sign that said "I was convicted of a DUI. I put your families in danger". Sure, it was part of the agreement to either avoid jail time or a heavy fine, but the choice was made. How is everyone so certain this isn't part of some plea that was made? Avoid a lengthy jail stay and have a sign in your yard.
 
borbole said:
Really, I mean really? You are concerned with sex offenders being discriminated and I am shortsighted? There is something seriously wrong with you.
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The issue, especially for me, isn't the discrimination against these people, its the effects such measures can have in the local community, with crime rates etc.

Like I keep saying, I believe the solution should be better sentencing, not measures like this.

Like I also keep saying, people have different opinions, hence why we have different political parties with such varying views on everything. Not everybody can be expected to agree. Doesn't make anybody "short-sighted" as insinuated in this thread by whoever.
 
stewart1champ said:
I've stepped into Washington D.C., the White House, etc. Your point in including that? Just because she is from the UK and possibly may not have "stepped into Washington DC" her opinion means jack squat?

Nice Mr. Howard. So much for "equal and fair" everything else, eh?
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Go troll somewhere else or come back when you actually have something useful to say, steward1champ

My comment was only to imply that she has no clue as to how our legal system (or generally any) works & that this thread has indeed been remaining on topic. And anyone here who has hinted to the undertones of this issue, which do include politics, is only being thorough, not self serving.
 
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