Random Thoughts...

[SneakyDave]

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[Teapot]

Random Thoughts: Home of the passive-aggressive. And in some cases, the actively aggressive.

 

[Adam Howard]

Random thought..... (mild inside rant)


Welcome to my world; you all just live here.

 

[RickM]

Random thought. It's Tuesday and both Kier and Mike are online.

 

[Adam Howard]

Random thought. It's Tuesday and both Kier and Mike are online.

They (KAM) were all online yesterday at the same time too, but I don't think anyone noticed it.

 

[Adam Howard]

It is May 15

We're 1/2 way through MAY .... 2 weeks away from JUNE....

And it is 0 c / 32 f outside.

WTF?!

 

[Adam Howard]

The world is going to fail, so long as it remains easier for others to do nothing or cause harm -vs- actually doing something good.

 

[Digital Doctor]

and y u listed first.

 

[DRE]

Those are probably spam bots.

 

[Adam Howard]

You mean there are ads on The Internet? Really? Where?

 

[DRE]

You mean there are ads on The Internet? Really? Where?

lol @ You in the editor thread. I hope your not trying to get them to make a table addon for you or something cause your just pissing them off.

 

[DRE]

I'm losing my xenforo enthusiasm even as 2.1 approaches. I wonder why?

 

[Pereira]

I'm losing my xenforo enthusiasm even as 2.1 approaches. I wonder why?

Perhaps it's because you must be living in the future...

 

[DRE]

lmaoooo I just caught that. Meant to write 1.2.

 

[Adam Howard]

lol @ You in the editor thread. I hope your not trying to get them to make a table addon for you or something cause your just pissing them off.

I'm not trying to p*ss off anyone. And there is something very wrong if having a difference of opinion & wanting only the best; is what it takes to p*ss anyone off.... That would be their problem.

I'm not looking for an add-on... That's kind of the point.

I'm only wishing for XenForo to live up to its full possible potential. The new editor is outstanding and by default it offers X, Y, Z.... It's already there. So lets include X, Y, Z

 

[DRE]

Didn't say you were trying to piss them off, but I can tell they are pissed off from their comments. Got so bad Mike had to say something.

 

[Adam Howard]

Didn't say you were trying to piss them off, but I can tell they are pissed off from their comments. Got so bad Mike had to say something.

As I said, that's their problem. They can be mad all they like, it doesn't bother me. If people want to get mad over nothing... More power to them.

My suggestion was only to keep what the new editor already offers (by default) and not take anything out.

To put it another way......

The old editor, TinyMCE, is like an old car. It uses up gas like water, has no air bags, and swings a little to the right.

The new editor, Redactor, is like a new car. It's fuel efficient, has the highest safety rating, and offers a smooth ride.

Why would you start taking out the fuel efficient engine or air bags which are in perfect working order, fresh off the lot?

 

[Shelley]

Lens Flare - Tubing 256 colours since 1999 (batteries not included)

 

[RickM]

My suggestion was only to keep what the new editor already offers (by default) and not take anything out.

I get what you're saying, and agree that it would be a nice 'perk' to keep them, but I can tell you now - its not as simple as just not removing the options - they have to be recoded. The editor has to be altered to produce BBCode, not HTML. Otherwise someone could just disable javascript and type whatever HTML they like.

So as it stands the process for keeping even existing functionality is something along these lines:

- Take Default Editor
- Recode output to only output BBCode
- Server-side check for illegal HTML
- Parse the BBCode into HTML
-> Save

Then when editing
- Parse HTML back to BBCode
- Put BBCode into modified WYSIWYG.

In essence, the WYSIWYG is not a HTML editor anymore, its a BBCode editor -that there is not a simple change, and requires it to be done all over again for every revision of the WYSIWYG.

 

[Adam Howard]

I get what you're saying, and agree that it would be a nice 'perk' to keep them, but I can tell you now - its not as simple as just not removing the options - they have to be recoded. The editor has to be altered to produce BBCode, not HTML. Otherwise someone could just disable javascript and type whatever HTML they like.

So as it stands the process for keeping even existing functionality is something along these lines:

- Take Default Editor
- Recode output to only output BBCode
- Server-side check for illegal HTML
- Parse the BBCode into HTML
-> Save

Then when editing
- Parse HTML back to BBCode
- Put BBCode into modified WYSIWYG.

In essence, the WYSIWYG is not a HTML editor anymore, its a BBCode editor -that there is not a simple change, and requires it to be done all over again for every revision of the WYSIWYG.

I understand this....

But they've already done this.... They're just missing 2 or 3 from the editor. Why settle for less? Complete the job and include the rest.