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I don't see other add on developers charging for commercial sites to use their add ons.
 
Jon W said:
Do you have a solution that isn't flawed?
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Be reasonable. Don't charge people a fortune.

And what nrep said:

nrep said:
Just charge people a fixed fee to use a specific addon, and skip all the licensing check bloat. That's what people expect to see, a price per add-on (varying with complexity). So many people have complained about the licencing check bloat, confusing pricing etc... and it puts people off buying your addons (like me). Just name a price for an addon and charge that amount. Have ones that a free or paid, but not this complex hybrid. I didn't understand your "donations" mechanism before and I find this unnecessarily complex.

Just keep it simple!

Of course, it's your addons and company - but people will vote with their feet.
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So with waindigo charging people for his Addons, the bigger question is does that mean he will still 65GBP PER HOUR for any additional functionality that is required that goes beyond his basic Addons? Or does that subscription model mean that the price incorporates additional functionality updates like other developers provide.

Just looks like a quick cash grab to me.
 
This guy insanely loves money, it scares me.
And he is christian... I'm christian too and I like money but not that much.
Charging people according to their forum members count? Okay, this guy is insane, really.

No offense please, just my appreciation.
 
Hi Jon! I really appreciate your efforts, and obviously you've gotta be able to make a living here...

But I have to cast my vote against charging per registered user. This heavily penalizes forums that have simply been around for a long time. For example a site like ours that's been around since 1999 easily has over 200k users (many of them spammers from vbulletin days). The only package on your page that would satisfy this, is the Gold. So that means a minimum $740 every year just to run any number of Waindigo add ons. Ooof! :unsure:
 
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I don't have any issues with creating a business plan that includes predictable monthly/annual income. I just don't think this pricing scheme is the best way of doing that.
 
Super120 said:
This guy insanely loves money, it scares me.
And he is christian... I'm christian too and I like money but not that much.
Charging people according to their forum members count? Okay, this guy is insane, really.

No offense please, just my appreciation.
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It's his business. I'm totally fine with him charging whatever he thinks is appropriate for his addons. The only problems I have are that it's so confusing at the minute and like @Russ says, charging differently based on member count has so many issues (and as we established earlier, fails in various circumstances and he has no clear policy on how it works in practice).

Charging a flat subscription fee based on the number of addons you have would make infinitely more sense.
 
I'm not saying he or other addon developers shouldn't charge, rather im saying if there are charges they should be easier to understand. Not something that gives you a headache after and makes you want to slam your head into a wall a few times.

But yes, im hoping for a flat fee too.
 
For example, say a site with 120k members wanted to run 1 premium addon on a commercial site, what would I select on your package page and how much would it cost?

Would that be 120 credits? So I can go for any of these 3 packages with above this number, or is this not for commercial sites?:

Bronze Subscription (Annually) - £180/year
Silver Subscription (Quarterly) - £120/3 months
Gold Subscription (Monthly) - £480/year
 
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Jon W said:
Why does having a complicated system mean that I love money?
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The general consensus seems to be that, people do like your addons, and dont mind paying you for your work. However your prices are so extreme it is outrageous, hence why its likened to a quick cash grab. You are within your rights to charge whatever you want, however people also have the right to discuss your pricing and the excessiveness of it, especially it coming with a complicated pricing structure.

So tell us. Does the subscription mean that your addons will be further developed, or will it come with a 'please start a conversation with me if you need any features'? Are people essentially paying for the support and advancement of your suite of addons, or just to use it now?
 
tajhay said:
So tell us. Does the subscription mean that your addons will be further developed, or will it come with a 'please start a conversation with me if you need any features'? Are people essentially paying for the support and advancement of your suite of addons, or just to use it now?
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Support and advancement.
 
Jon W said:
Support and advancement.
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That is good news, however im sure you will have challenges being a one man dev team and having to support the large quite of addons you have. Good to see advancement on there for your customers, and i sincerely hope none of your customers get told 'oh you have to pay me 65 GBP per hour for that' after they have paid their subscription fee. Look forward to seeing how this unfolds.
 
tajhay said:
That is good news, however im sure you will have challenges being a one man dev team and having to support the large quite of addons you have. Good to see advancement on there for your customers, and i sincerely hope none of your customers get told 'oh you have to pay me 65 GBP per hour for that' after they have paid their subscription fee. Look forward to seeing how this unfolds.
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I don't charge £65 an hour.

Also the high price reflects the fact that I am one man. If there was no demand I would have to quit or lower the price.
 
Jon W said:
I don't charge £65 an hour.
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You have quoted me that price in the past for one of your addons (data tables) working with another of yours (replace keywords).

You quoted me 2 hours min @ 65 GBP.

I laughed, said no thanks, did it another way without using either of your addons for 1/5 of that price :)
 
This discussion shouldn't be about value for money as that's subjective and I'd happily pay a few hundred for an hours work if it was something we needed and I couldn't do myself.

It's really the confusion over licenses that I'd like to sort out as we really can't buy something without knowing how much we need to pay now and how much to receive updates.
 
As this is an add-on thread, posts should be limited to support and questions about the add-on, including prices.

Any posts which are complaining about the approach, the business practices in general, etc. should be directed elsewhere.
 
tajhay said:
You have quoted me that price in the past for one of your addons (data tables) working with another of yours (replace keywords).

You quoted me 2 hours min @ 65 GBP.

I laughed, said no thanks, did it another way without using either of your addons for 1/5 of that price :)
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A lot of people got a lot of things cheaper from ******* too. If I quote a price then that is the price I can do it for. Some developers subsidise the cost with other jobs or pirate activity. Others live in countries where living is cheap. Others live at home or don't have wives or families.

I charge what I think is reasonable and if work stops then I will go get a job elsewhere.
 
Brogan said:
As this is an add-on thread, posts should be limited to support and questions about the add-on, including prices.

Any posts which are complaining about the approach, the business practices in general, etc. should be directed elsewhere.
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This addon is directly related to licensing of his other products. Surely questions trying to clarify those license costs are valid and related to this addon? If you think not then feel free to split them off :-)
 
RobParker said:
This addon is directly related to licensing of his other products. Surely questions trying to clarify those license costs are valid and related to this addon? If you think not then feel free to split them off :)
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Always a good idea to question a moderator.
 
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