I want a points system so bad but I don't see the point if you can't purchase anything with it or gamble it away. Ya'll have no idea how much I miss playing blackjack in andrew's casino mod when I was on vb4 (waindigo charged me $1500 to develop that but I don't have that kinda money) If I lost real bad I could use the points market system to steal members points who did not buy steal protection and I could buy cool stuff like name changes, username and title changes, set a certain font color or style for posts and even purchase points to upload smilies. Then there's the vbookie addon which was also awesome. But i had trouble with it since 1:1 ratios can't be hardcoded. It's way more fun if it was cause then i could just let all my paid usergroup members create bets and not really have to worry about points inflation due to the 1:1 limit. K thats my rant for the day im out.