Occupy !

[Kim]

Yeah but i wonder how many people are going to be there to protest because they actually believe in the "cause"?

Hard to say Peggy, but it doesn't really matter, what matters is that they care enough about it to do something.. rather than sitting on thier arses whinging.

I also wonder how many people in Places of Worship this weekend will be "True Believers" too... and how many are there for others, or for Community?

End of the day, it doesn't matter though does it.. they get something out of it regardless of their levels of belief.

 

[Peggy]

I said that Kim, because there are people who attend protests just to holler and incite violence.
I doubt that those people get anything out of it.

 

[Kim]

I hope you're right Kim. Over here, there are people who attend protests just to holler and incite violence.

We have them here too Peggy, professional "protestors" it is a occupational hazard of allowing free speech and free right of assembly.. you will always get some trouble makers, and some who are opposition plants deliberately causing trouble and painting the cause as "Sex with Animals" loonies.... but that doesn't mean all are bad, or that protesting is bad.

 

[Kevin]

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Reminded me of this article about the protesters...

Protester Angelina Lesniewski graduated from a Massachusetts liberal arts college in May with an English degree. She has no job prospects in her field, and $28,000 in student debt.

"I could have gotten a degree in something practical like psychology, which I find very interesting but I would have been miserable," she said.

 

[Peggy]

We have them here too Peggy, professional "protestors" it is a occupational hazard of allowing free speech and free right of assembly.. you will always get some trouble makers, and some who are opposition plants deliberately causing trouble and painting the cause as "Sex with Animals" loonies.... but that doesn't mean all are bad, or that protesting is bad.

I didn't say it was bad nor that they are bad. It was simply an observation.

 

[Kim]

I didn't say it was bad nor that they are bad. It was simply an observation.

Fair enough, that comment wasn't specifically directed at you, more a general observation too, some are already trying to paint all protesters as Animal Sex loving, stinking hippie, violent commie hoards.

 

[Peggy]

Fair enough, that comment wasn't specifically directed at you, more a general observation too, some are already trying to paint all protesters as Animal Sex loving, stinking hippie, violent commie hoards.

eh I've been involved in 2 protests in my life. Very good causes. A group showed up to crash it and cause trouble, but the police were right there, and got them out of the way quick. We were able to continue our protest in peace.

It's the idiots that make the good ones look bad, as in all things.

 

[grant sarver]

 

[Kim]

eh I've been involved in 2 protests in my life. Very good causes. A group showed up to crash it and cause trouble, but the police were right there, and got them out of the way quick. We were able to continue our protest in peace.

It's the idiots that make the good ones look bad, as in all things.

Indeed it is!

I have also only been in a few protests myself, also for good causes that I passionately believed in. It's really disappointing when a few troublemakers change the entire mood and focus of the protests.

I hope these ones can stay peaceful and stay focussed.

 

[grant sarver]

Five Reasons the Occupy Wall Street Movement Really Frightens the Right

 

[Kim]

Five Reasons the Occupy Wall Street Movement Really Frightens the Right

Reading now..

Me likey!

The recklessness and greed of the big Wall Street banks, CEO's and top one percent -- those are the culprits who sunk the economy and who have siphoned off all of the economic growth from the middle class. They and their enablers in Congress -- largely Republicans -- are the problem. To address the underlying economic crisis facing everyday Americans we must rein in their power.

 

[erich37]

At the risk of sounding stupid, just what IS all this "Occupy... " stuff about anyway? I see Occupy New York, Occupy LA, Occupy Chicago, even my own little town is doing a Occupy Youngstown this Saturday.

Are they protesting? If so, what are they protesting? I can't find a single site that gives a CLEAR reason for the Occupy-whatever-City.

this website should answer your questions and will open your eyes......

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/bbc-s...-truth-collapse-comingand-goldman-rules-world

 

[Salty]

http://xenforo.com/community/threads/visualizing-protests-and-revolutions.21408/

^ imo

 

[Fred Sherman]

Hard to say Peggy, but it doesn't really matter, what matters is that they care enough about it to do something.. rather than sitting on thier arses whinging.

The problem is the masses don't care enough to do the one thing that matters most - vote.

 

[Fred Sherman]

Reading now..

Me likey!

But its not even close to being true. The economic crisis is a direct result of toxic holding. That was a result of democrat policies that Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were forced to adopt, qualifying people for mortgages they couldn't afford. To call it democrat is a little unfair. It really falls at Barney Frank's feet and he's a true socialist, not a democrat in the model of Sam Nunn or JFK.

And the right isn't afraid of this - the only way I can call it a movement is to equate it to a bowl movement. At the end of the day, these are nuts who cheer the end of democracy and capitalism and say the American flag stands for death, Those are messages that don't play well with the swing voters. On the contrary, I hope they stay around for a long, long time. Slightly more than a year.

 

[Kim]

The problem is the masses don't care enough to do the one thing that matters most - vote.

Really? I thought that is precisely what they did last time.

Unfortunately the inspired leader they chose turned out to be rather dull and conservative, and has deeply disappointed.

But its not even close to being true. The economic crisis is a direct result of toxic holding. That was a result of democrat policies that Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were forced to adopt, qualifying people for mortgages they couldn't afford. To call it democrat is a little unfair. It really falls at Barney Frank's feet and he's a true socialist, not a democrat in the model of Sam Nunn or JFK.

And the right isn't afraid of this - the only way I can call it a movement is to equate it to a bowl movement. At the end of the day, these are nuts who cheer the end of democracy and capitalism and say the American flag stands for death, Those are messages that don't play well with the swing voters. On the contrary, I hope they stay around for a long, long time. Slightly more than a year.

Goodness me, that really is rather silly to say the excessive corporate greed that has been allowed to run rampant and completely unchecked for the last 10 years is a result of one person, one policy don't you think. I don't know enough about US specific economic policies to argue them so I won't get caught up in a He did it.. no.. He did it petty blame laying squabble. Fact is.. you are deep in the Doo Doo my friend.

People are taking to the Streets, in what I believe to be largely peaceful protests (as opposed to the recent UK riots). Those who are seeking to discredit them as " these are nuts who cheer the end of democracy and capitalism and say the American flag stands for death" would do better to look long and hard at the reality of their situation, because apparently you don't know what democracy actually *is*

This is Democracy in action.

 

[grant sarver]

It was "the poor" defaulting on their mortgages that brought down the global economic system. Yeah, that sound reasonable.

 

[DroidHost]

the statics in America :

1. 100 million poor
2. 50m have no home.
3. 50m unemployed
4. 440 persons are more rich that the rest of ppl combined

those protest they are not right or left , not democrt or repuplican ....
what is happening in the US ... since the Iraq war the US becoming more dictator than a Democratic government (worldwide dictator) ... as of now it became internal dictator to ... US want to play in every single country ... bring down what they see as a threat to them ... and support killers and dictators allover the earth ... and stop to hear the voice of human that is killing every day ... and more they give a green light to do so ! ... US speak of humans right and spreading democracy ... but they spread the killing and dictators .... now they don't hear the voice of the voters inside there democracy !

http://www.occupywallst.org/about/

 

[DroidHost]

The first high-profile article to offer a sensible explanation of Occupy Wall Street came from anthropologist David Graeber, author of the recently-published book, Debt: The First 5,000 Years. In his op-ed, "Occupy Wall Street rediscovers the radical imagination", he wrote:

"We are watching the beginnings of the defiant self-assertion of a new generation of Americans, a generation who are looking forward to finishing their education with no jobs, no future, but still saddled with enormous and unforgivable debt... Just as in Europe, we are seeing the results of colossal social failure. The occupiers are the very sort of people, brimming with ideas, whose energies a healthy society would be marshaling to improve life for everyone. Instead, they are using it to envision ways to bring the whole system down.

"But the ultimate failure here is of imagination. What we are witnessing can also be seen as a demand to finally have a conversation we were all supposed to have back in 2008.

"There was a moment, after the near-collapse of the world's financial architecture, when anything seemed possible. Everything we'd been told for the last decade turned out to be a lie...

"It seemed the time had come to rethink everything: the very nature of markets, money, debt; to ask what an 'economy' is actually for. This lasted perhaps two weeks. Then, in one of the most colossal failures of nerve in history, we all collectively clapped our hands over our ears and tried to put things back as close as possible to the way they'd been before."​

 

[DroidHost]

it is a good article
http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/10/2011109112727162598.html