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Occupy !

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by DroidHost, Oct 9, 2011.

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  1. DroidHost

    DroidHost Well-Known Member

    There was a thread about Arabic spring but non is talking about what is going now in US , Eurpe .. and around all the globe ...

    the Arabs was in the street for almost the same reasons

    what you think ?!
  2. Floris

    Floris Guest

    This is all normal for the financial cycle.

    Crappy tv, lack of freedom, governments all over the place, and civil war feelings all around - just before what you could call a depression. 2013 is going to be a huge problem, shouting in wallstreet is a symptom, not a cause.
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  3. DroidHost

    DroidHost Well-Known Member

    I agree , just that I was thinking that American and European are fine with there governmental , etc Issues or at least there voice is heard ... but lately -before a year or so- I can see that the rulers are not the voice of ppl as should democracy be ... so now the ppl of earth is waking up ... and all our issues are from the politicians .. they are who make the troubles and make the wrong pictures about different societies
    I think this is the problem where one part is in control ... no one to balance !
    I hope one day they stop making weapons and sending troops all over the earth
  4. vbresults

    vbresults Well-Known Member

    This is normal when 1% of the population controls 90% of the wealth. The mainstream media is deliberately downplaying the protests on Wall Street and the many other protests "springing" up across the USA. I think it's hilarious how the mainstream media will make a big deal about protests and riots when it's happening overseas, but when it's happening in our own backyard, the protests are either ignored or the protesters are proclaimed to be "dirty hippies".
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  5. DroidHost

    DroidHost Well-Known Member

    this is what was happening also in our region ,,, the protesters where anything but a citizens
  6. grant sarver

    grant sarver Well-Known Member

    "The country is governed for the richest, for the corporations, the bankers, the land speculators, and for the exploiters of labor. The majority of mankind are working people. So long as their fair demands - the ownership and control of their livelihoods - are set at naught, we can have neither men's rights nor women's rights. The majority of mankind is ground down by industrial oppression in order that the small remnant may live in ease."
    ~ Helen Keller, 1911

    Things never change!
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  7. Fred Sherman

    Fred Sherman Well-Known Member

    They're a bunch of hippie, socialist freaks.

    This is the Wall Street group. At 16 seconds in, cheering the end of democracy and capitalism. At 1:06, "You can have sex with animals or whatever."

    And this is Chicago:

    Doesn't know what they're doing, doesn't know enough American history, but sure is Anti-America!

    Here are the Atlanta hippies:

    Does it remind anyone of this:
    As I watch these 1960s, hippy retreads, I too dissolve into nervous laughter.
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  8. Dean

    Dean Well-Known Member

    It is quite easy to find someone attending those that is not quite sure why they are there and the media is indeed having fun with that. Just below the surface the majority can articulate specific issues that have occurred of late.

    For example a new set of limits on bank fees were introduced buy the government... and almost the same week the banks countered with new bank fees in other places - even though the banks are making record profits - right after $billions of USA tax dollars were used to bail them out.
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  9. Ranger375

    Ranger375 Well-Known Member

    I like the sesame street version better. I want to organize one of those Zombie walks to go through the center of the protest.
  10. Fred Sherman

    Fred Sherman Well-Known Member

    Statements like this are part of the problem. It might resonate, but its false.

    in 2010, BofA paid back its TARP loans in full, but also posted a $2.2 billion loss, the first loss of any kind since before the BankAmerica/Nations Bank merger in '97, the last year I worked for them. Thats a net loss of annual revenue of $4.78 billion. Card services, where Congress cut fees and they countered by raising debit card fees, was a loss of $1.1 billion. When a bank is losing money in card services, its irresponsible for Congress to cut their fees and damage the industry further. The shift of fees from credit cards to debit cards, while not popular, makes perfect sense given the increase in use and processing costs.

    And here's the kicker. This is the way Congress envisioned this working. It's called the Durban rule. Go read some of the statements made during the debate. In short, by capping per swipe fees, they will reduce the cost of businesses to process credit card transactions, lowering the burden on the business. Card issuers will them recoup costs directly from their customers in the form of other offsetting fees.

    The Durban rule wasn't designed to help card users. it was designed to help small businesses and screw the consumer. Congress didn't try to help the little guy only to have the evil banks adopt a different tactic. This was by design. If anyone is curious, Durban is an Illinois Dem.
  11. Forsaken

    Forsaken Well-Known Member

    My bank is now trying to charge me a monthly fee for having/using a bank card :rolleyes:.
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  12. TheLaw

    TheLaw Well-Known Member

    Some know why they are there. Some don't know why they are there. Most seem to be there because they have one common thread that runs between them - they have lost their hope for happiness in the future.

    That said... I send my deepest thoughts and well wishes for the people in Thailand that few even know have problems of their own. What amazes me is how thoughtful so many of the poor people are and are willing to give their one extra shirt to someone else who has none. While many of these people think of others, the NBA fights about how to split billions of dollars of revenue that it will extract with its basketball monopoly. And then there is Cain who wants to tax a billion dollar company the same as the cashier who makes $28,000 per year working in one of his pizza chains. Old wine in a new bottle but it doesn't mean we should stop thinking or hope that somehow we can make the world, as a whole, a better place for all in the future.
  13. Peggy

    Peggy Well-Known Member

    At the risk of sounding stupid, just what IS all this "Occupy... " stuff about anyway? I see Occupy New York, Occupy LA, Occupy Chicago, even my own little town is doing a Occupy Youngstown this Saturday.

    Are they protesting? If so, what are they protesting? I can't find a single site that gives a CLEAR reason for the Occupy-whatever-City.
  14. grant sarver

    grant sarver Well-Known Member

    Call it what you will. What it really comes down to is "civil unrest" and it needs proper attention not to be dismissed as the "rabble".
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  15. bambua

    bambua Well-Known Member

    It's a loosely gathered group, mostly being organized through facebook groups that are protesting the financial situation and differential between the different "classes" of people in the given area.

    Here's a site about the wallstreet group: http://occupywallst.org/
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  16. kkm323

    kkm323 Well-Known Member

    Capitalism has been proven to everyone in the world that it failed. Seeking profit and forgetting that we are human kind can be dangrouse. Look at where we are now. We need a solution socialism is not it, but unity against wars and those who benfit afterward can be our real weapon. :) You feel you are oppressed by the regime, go outside and protest :) its been this way for decades and its working. Keeping your mouth shout would not bring you your right. Speak loud and clear and make your point so the entire world will listen and support you.
  17. Kim

    Kim Well-Known Member

    Protesting about what you believe to be wrong is a cornerstone of Democracy.

    I always find it amusing and ironic, that arch conservatives try to put down Protests, or brand Protestors as dirty hippies... whilst being the most vocal supporters of Goood Ole Democracy.

    Seems like many Americans are very unhappy, there is a massive in-equity in the US between rich and poor, they are perfectly within their rights to protest that.

    Personally, I am grateful to live in a nation which still has a large number of Banking regulations in place, and as a result did not have the catastrophic disaster of the US banking system.
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  18. John

    John Well-Known Member

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  19. Kim

    Kim Well-Known Member

    It's actually good to see that young people still give a ....

    Gives me hope for the future that not everyone is a brain dead consumer sheep :)
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  20. Peggy

    Peggy Well-Known Member

    Yeah but i wonder how many people are going to be there to protest because they actually believe in the "cause"?
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