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Multiple Accounts Detection [Deleted]

Discussion in 'Add-on Releases' started by Insy, Apr 21, 2014.

  1. Insy

    Insy Well-Known Member

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  2. RobParker

    RobParker Well-Known Member

    Is this just IP address based or also more sophisticated (cookie based as well, etc)?

    We have lots of users sharing IP addresses as lots of ISPs don't issue static ones.
  3. Insy

    Insy Well-Known Member

    Only based on IPs. Detection based on cookies never works.
    We did a lot of testing with a friend and this is the most reliable method we have found.
  4. RobParker

    RobParker Well-Known Member

    Hmm the version of this we're using that's based in cookies works fine, as did the old VB version. I'd be interested to know why you think it doesn't.

    IP address-only is pretty useless as it'll trigger all the time.
  5. Insy

    Insy Well-Known Member

    Just because 99% of users know that they should empty their cache when they have multiple accounts. So this check is useless.
  6. RobParker

    RobParker Well-Known Member

    I think 99% is a massive over estimation. Maybe for tech forums but not in general.
  7. Allan

    Allan Well-Known Member

    Instead of criticizing, try it !
    Insy likes this.
  8. Ingenious

    Ingenious Well-Known Member

    With respect, the users who know they should empty their cache to avoid multiple detection on forums also know to use a different IP such as their mobile connection or a proxy etc.

    The whole point of multiple detection for me is intended to capture those non-tech savvy users. Everyone else can evade your systems no matter how complex.

    So use of cookies is essential.

    In addition, cookie use brings up cases of users sharing computers - giving you "intelligence" on users who are linked, well before they might cause issues. This is especially useful for linking personal and commercial accounts (eg. where a personal account may be used to post fake endorsements).

    IP use alone can miss so much of this.
    Chimpie, tsak76, Veer and 2 others like this.
  9. Insy

    Insy Well-Known Member

    I am open to any suggestions. I will add support for cookies in a future release.
    It was originally intended and I had dropped it because I thought it was useless but if you're telling me that it can be effective, you're probably right :)
    RAHSTYLES, Phillip, v2hao and 2 others like this.
  10. RobParker

    RobParker Well-Known Member

    I wasn't just criticising, I was trying to be constructive. I know at the minute this will be useless for us as we have so many users on shared IP addresses as most forums will have.

    I've been hoping for a long time that someone picks this up - http://xenforo.com/community/threads/multiple-account-detection.6373/page-6 as it works really well, it's just not maintained.
    Phillip likes this.
  11. tsak76

    tsak76 Active Member

    this is must for every forum but as others have said cookie detection is a must (like the good old vb addon) and an option to report moderators with alert or thread and/or option to move the detected user to another usergroup

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  12. RobParker

    RobParker Well-Known Member

    The other (abandoned) addon still works fine for us.
  13. Lexy

    Lexy Active Member

    it is work for 1.3.1 any issue with other plugin???
  14. Insy

    Insy Well-Known Member

    Yes for 1.3.1. I'm not aware of any issue with another plugin.
  15. Lexy

    Lexy Active Member

    it is alerts admin for all multiple acc, and user with double acc to??
  16. ENF

    ENF Well-Known Member

    Cookies are very effective still. Just taking a look at some rough stats, I'd pin cookie-based catches at around 80%.
    I suppose, as more people become aware about online privacy and those devil cookies, then it may become less effective at some point. But for now, I don't think many people clear their cookies on a regular basis.

    I know you said you'd add cookies, but I just wanted to drop another supporting comment about cookie tracking in here.
    Kintaro and Insy like this.
  17. Insy

    Insy Well-Known Member

    Sorry, I didn't quite understand your question.
  18. Lexy

    Lexy Active Member

    when users have multiple account, this plugin send alerts to users and admin about it
  19. Insy

    Insy Well-Known Member

    Only if you enable conversations.
  20. Lexy

    Lexy Active Member

    and when conversation its not enabled, how to find multiple users

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