I had my permissions structure all wackadoo when I set up my site. I have now re-vamped all the user groups and such so that I take advantage of the cumulative structure. All permissions work as intended. All users are placed into Registered initially Users are added automatically to Verified after 5 posts via User Group Promotions. The problem seems now that some existing users, with dozens/hundreds of posts, are getting their posts moderated, even ones that I have in such groups as Verified (which is a User Group Promotion that kicks in at 5 posts). Have let the site run for 24 hrs and I rebuilt all caches after the permissions changes, so now everyone who should be in the Verified group is in there. I have a feeling that this has something to do with either the whole "Follow message moderation rules" permissions setting, or the Askimet key (I have it now set to 4), or something else. But why would existing users get moderated all of the sudden? I'm waiting to see how many posts it takes, after changing the Askimet setting from 5 to 4. But on the FMMR permissions setting, I've read thread after thread about this so I think I understand it but this one posts lost me: http://xenforo.com/community/threads/members-needing-moderator-approval-to-post.66444/#post-698296 For some reason, I cannot find the Node forum option he mentions above, where is that? Did that change in 1.3 from 1.2? I currently have this set to no (not set) across the board for all usergroups, except for "allow" in the unregistered/unconfirmed group, which can't post anyways so I don't know why I bother to have it set to allow there.