XF 1.2 If threads are called discussions, why Post New Thread?

[Stuart Wright]

I like the idea of moving away from the terms threads and posts as discussions and messages are more user friendly IMO.
However, we seem to be clinging to the notion of starting a new thread still with the Post New Thread button.
It appears that the word Thread is used in quite a lot of phrases. It seems somewhat confusing that we would hang on to a legacy term and make life more difficult for new people than it needs to be. We have to explain what a thread is and that it's the same as a discussion.

I was wondering why it's still in Xenforo, and who has edited their phrases to change it to Discussion site wide.

Can we dispose of the term Thread?

 

[Jeremy]

Discussions is a generic term that encompasses Threads, Conversations, etc. The route reflects /threads/ as well.

 

[AndyB]

I think the term Thread and Post are very easily understood by forum users.

 

[Stuart Wright]

I think the term Thread and Post are very easily understood by forum users.

By existing forum users, maybe, but people new to forums will think a post is something they get from the postman and a thread is what holds your pullover together.

 

[CTXMedia]

It would be interesting to see if renaming the New Thread button to New Discussion would increase the number of new, erm, lol - threads.

 

[Paul B]

It is of course possible to rename the phrases and the routes should one wish to do so.

 

[AndyB]

By existing forum users, maybe, but people new to forums will think a post is something they get from the postman and a thread is what holds your pullover together.

Perhaps for the first time user. But once they have successfully created a new Thread the term Thread is more descriptive and in the sense that threads belong to Forums. A discussion is too vague IMHO and can be a confusing term.

 

[Paul B]

I disagree.

The term "thread" is a throwback to threaded view, which is from way back and no longer really used in forums.

I prefer topic, or at a push, discussion.

[url]http://xenforo.com/community/threads/thread-vs-discussion-vs-topic.2838/#post-41338[/URL]

 

[DRE]

topic sounds better

 

[Amaury]

I've personally rephrased discussions and messages to threads and posts.

 

[Stuart Wright]

I disagree.

The term "thread" is a throwback to threaded view, which is from way back and no longer really used in forums.

I prefer topic, or at a push, discussion.

http://xenforo.com/community/threads/thread-vs-discussion-vs-topic.2838/#post-41338

But not for Clip The Apex?

For us admin, we've got used to posts and threads. It's very hard not to use those terms. For people new to forums, maybe only familiar with YouTube and Facebook, the term Thread might be quite foreign, I think.

 

[AndyB]

From the Merriam Webster dictionary.



http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/thread

 

[Paul B]

But not for Clip The Apex?

I can't be bothered to rename all the phrases.

 

[Carlos]

I think they designed it as "discussion" in the first place to differentiate themselves (xenForo) from the other competitors (vBulletin for example).

 

[Amaury]

I think they designed it as "discussion" in the first place to differentiate themselves (xenForo) from the other competitors (vBulletin for example).

If discussions and messages mean the same thing as threads and posts, then it's not really a differentiation.

 

[TPerry]

If discussions and messages mean the same thing as threads and posts, then it's not really a differentiation.

Lexicology sucks.

 

[HWS]

Topic and Messages. We renamed it, because it is easier to understand for Newbies. And it is more true too. ;-)

 

[Stuart Wright]

Topic and Messages. We renamed it, because it is easier to understand for Newbies. And it is more true too. ;-)

Did you do tons of phrase edits, then?

 

[Carlos]

If discussions and messages mean the same thing as threads and posts, then it's not really a differentiation.

That's not what I meant.

xenForo | vBulletin
Discussions = Threads
Messages = Posts

What xenForo have basically done is re-name the areas so that it's "different" from vBulletin.

 

[Stuart Wright]

That's not what I meant.

xenForo | vBulletin
Discussions = Threads
Messages = Posts

What xenForo have basically done is re-name the areas so that it's "different" from vBulletin.

My point is that they haven't, though. Or the button would read Post New Disussion.
And by the way, I don't think decisions we're made to make Xenforo different to vbulletin. I think they were and are made because in their experience, that's the best way to do the job.