I hate ipb, immorally overpriced
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Opus X
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compare self hosted to self hosted.
$195 from xenforo for only a forum.
$499 from invision for so much more.
now before you lash out that would be $395 for xenforo and you still don't have clubs, calendar or pages.
and that $395 is only compared to base what is already offered by invision.
so add another $200 into that price for xenforo.
no i have no real dog in the hunt.
but compare apples to apples and not to kumquats.
$195 from xenforo for only a forum.
$499 from invision for so much more.
now before you lash out that would be $395 for xenforo and you still don't have clubs, calendar or pages.
and that $395 is only compared to base what is already offered by invision.
so add another $200 into that price for xenforo.
no i have no real dog in the hunt.
but compare apples to apples and not to kumquats.
Arantor
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When Invision still offered just the forum as a module on its own, it was vastly more price competitive. And if you don’t need the gallery, downloads, commerce, etc, that’s a lot to pay for that you don’t need.
But Pages? Pages is an interesting beast because comparing it to XF you need to start factoring in the cost of something like AMS on top, and it starts to be a little less uncompetitive.
But Pages? Pages is an interesting beast because comparing it to XF you need to start factoring in the cost of something like AMS on top, and it starts to be a little less uncompetitive.
Opus X
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from what tracy told me not just ams.
you can include lds.
you can include rms.
(and now we are at around $225)
and there are further abilities from it.
it is really what is so attractive still to me about invision.
there are several things i could do for what amounts to free.
no they may not be at the level of the plug ins but as many that run xenfoo are happy with what minimum it offers at its base pages would do for me and do better.
AWS
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It's truly amazing what you can do with it. I'm just scratching the surface with it. I created a directory with it. See it in action here. The resources section of the same site was built with pages. I have seen bug trackers, recipe databases and more.
Couple the cost of addons like that with a license and the price difference would be much smaller. Lets not talk about support. That's where it gets complicated when you use addons instead of official addons from the same company.
Mr Lucky
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IPB is not compulsory. So what’s immoral about not being forced to pay for something?
Or other things you may not need for a discussion forum. BTW xenForo has pages last time I looked.
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Arantor
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XF’s page nodes are far from comparable functionality wise to Pages in Invision. Their setup lets you define content types with fields, and display and manage that. The example they give on their website in the guides section is a recipes collection. And then there’s a drag and drop page builder…
Suzanne O
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Reckon https://www.proboards.com would suit you more
Opus X
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if you want just a forum that is fine.
many want to offer more than that.
why do you think plug ins like ams are so popular if xenforo did a great job?
and it is obvious you have not played with invision pages.
just because they use the same name does not mean they are the same.
Mr Lucky
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Why would I as I don't use the IPB any more?
I was just responding factually to the post saying xenForo did not have pages, nothing to do with being comparable.
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Masetrix
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Why are we so unfriendly to each other...
It always depends on what you want to offer the customer.
For a forum in the classic form, XF is the best solution.
If you don't want to deal with a server and its administration, an XF cloud is the best solution.
But if you want to overburden your customers with everything possible, you're going for the overpriced product, in my humble opinion.
The discussion here is comparing apples and oranges and can't really lead to success. Likewise, far too many "forums" today are a mixture of many things that the customer doesn't want and that distracts them from the actual purpose of the discussions.
It always depends on what you want to offer the customer.
For a forum in the classic form, XF is the best solution.
If you don't want to deal with a server and its administration, an XF cloud is the best solution.
But if you want to overburden your customers with everything possible, you're going for the overpriced product, in my humble opinion.
The discussion here is comparing apples and oranges and can't really lead to success. Likewise, far too many "forums" today are a mixture of many things that the customer doesn't want and that distracts them from the actual purpose of the discussions.
Arantor
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The problem is that getting someone to “just a forum” is harder than ever - the current wisdom is that you need some other content to attract people, whether that’s articles, reviews, whatever.
cdub
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Current wisdom is correct... UNLESS it's already an established active forum.
cdub
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Yes. Depends highly on niche of course.
Opus X
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because your statement about how xenforo had pages and trying to indicate they are the same was not correct?
<smh>
Mr Lucky
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No, if you read the pos you'll see I didn't say anything or man to imply anything about them being the same. I was just correcting the statement that XenForo doesn't have pages. It does. I wasn't commenting on whether they are the same. Just that there are pages. Simple as that.
