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how is XF doing in term of customers compared to other platforms?

Discussion in 'General XenForo Discussion and Feedback' started by king8084, Oct 1, 2016.

  1. king8084

    king8084 Active Member

    so everytime i go to a forum and see another platform used i sigh, i feel like i am just too attached to xf to accept other platforms for now

    so i tried to search and couldnt get any solid information, how many forums using xenforo now compared to the other big two?
  2. Chris D

    Chris D XenForo Developer Staff Member

    We don't release sales information or other statistics but there is, as I understand, some market share information available from a couple of sources but the data isn't certain to be accurate.

    Most people refer to this page:


    There's a chart which compares the main commercial forum software vendors.

    That'll be the closest you get, really.
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  3. king8084

    king8084 Active Member

    holy crap XF is that popular? i thought IPB and XF will be very close and sadly VB is way ahead

    this makes me happy
  4. king8084

    king8084 Active Member

    if XF is that popular why people say its a niche market for coders to spend time on

  5. Snog

    Snog Well-Known Member

    It's no more of a niche market than vB or any other forum software.
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  6. Snog

    Snog Well-Known Member

    I'll add that no matter what the forum software is, the add-ons themselves are niche add-ons. For example, not everyone has a need for application forms or say a media gallery.
  7. MikeMpls

    MikeMpls Well-Known Member

  8. Alfa1

    Alfa1 Well-Known Member

    For the last year XF has been slightly decreasing in marketshare according to the above tool.
    IPS and BB have been growing and are expected to grow further.
    vb has been decreasing a lot and is expected to further decrease.

    What XF marketshare will do depends on XF2.1 when new features are added to XF. Until then there will probably be a further decrease in marketshare visible in the digitalpoint tool.
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  9. MikeMpls

    MikeMpls Well-Known Member

    Decrease in market share would only be a problem if the size of the overall market or the number of XF installations is dropping. Are those figures available anywhere?

    Today the spread is down to 4.0%:

    XF 35.4%
    vB 39.4%
    Invision 19.4%
    BB 6.1%
  10. Alfa1

    Alfa1 Well-Known Member

  11. tenants

    tenants Well-Known Member



    vb to xf conversion 69% (leaving in swarms)
    xf to vb conversion 3.9% (dribbling away, like crazy buffoons)

    I just want to know who this 3.9% are, are they mad ... talk to the other 69%
  12. Robust

    Robust Well-Known Member

    Everyone has difference preferences in forum systems. Liking XenForo is just an opinion, the same as liking vBulletin. It's just as crazy to like vBulletin as it is to like XenForo. Of course, personally, I didn't like other forum softwares as much but that's only an opinion.

    Also, this cookie search tool is not really *that* accurate in showing market share. It's an estimation. It could be completely wrong if the companies decided to make their full accounts public.
  13. tenants

    tenants Well-Known Member

    Maybe, I have no idea how they get this data, presumably spidering indexed pages, so there is probably a "general accuracy" +/- x%,
    ignoring the sample that were unspiderable (I'm just guessing how these stats we produced).

    When 69% do one thing and 4% do another out of choice, I have a feeling that it's probably more down to not knowing about the other software rather than preference.

    I still talk to people about forum software, and much of the public that I know have heard of vb, very few know of xf. But it's just a handful of people that I've spoke to about things (when mentioning I design plugins for forums).

    But, I guess there will always be people who buck the trend regardless,

    .... variety is the spice of life (does that make marriage the bland Tofu).
  14. RobParker

    RobParker Well-Known Member

    Note that a 3rd of VB sites (so a tenth of all forums) are still on VB3 and you see that there's a long way down for VB to go still once they need to migrate to something new/secure.
  15. Nebulon Ranger

    Nebulon Ranger New Member

    Even crazier is that there's still a tiny fraction of people on XF 1.0: [​IMG]
  16. cellarius

    cellarius Active Member

    Those old versions would probably be abandoned forum projects that never took off but are still online nonetheless, where admins don't bother anymore or don't want to invest the additional buck to get further upgrades.
  17. rainmotorsports

    rainmotorsports Well-Known Member

    It's not surprising to see people on 1.1 though. It was a tough upgrade. IGN might still be in 1.3 due to custom development that affected the core heavily.
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  18. Alfa1

    Alfa1 Well-Known Member

    I think that with XF2 we will see the adoption rate of new version split as well. Not in the degree that vb has, but boards with a lot of addons or custom development are not likely to migrate to XF2 until there is a very significant reason to do so.

    We have invested heavily in XF1 development, and I expect that once XF2.1 or 2.2 is out with new features it will be worthwhile for us to nix our investments and upgrade.
  19. RobParker

    RobParker Well-Known Member

    SomethingAwful finally announced they are considering moving to XF (I'm fairly sure their owner has been posting on here for a while).

    With 60 million posts and 150 million archived posts I think that'd make them the largest XF site, moving from a heavily customised/rebuilt VB site.
  20. ozzy47

    ozzy47 Well-Known Member


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