Well I was absolutely unaware of this effort until I read about it in a thread over at vB. Seems that the sale has stirred the pot quite a bit and eventually the 'other announcement' was clarified as the one from here. I am quite impressed by what has been done here. Having struggled through many upgrades of vB4 it is both a shame that so much money was spent and refreshing to see that there may just be a viable alternative with a pricing structure similar to what I was used to with Jelsoft. Actually I thought that I was buying into Jelsoft when I made my upgrade to vB4 so there is a bit of disappointment there. Enough with the old. Glad to hear that at least part of the team that made vB what it was has put their efforts into what appears to be a strong competitor. I look forward to the future and intend to support you with a beta purchase.