Has Elon Musk lost his mind or?…

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Starbucks said:
Now, for sure Mr. Lucky will show up again with a comment “what’s a far-left?”,
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No he won't, on the contrary IMO as far left is a very easily definable term - but still in the interests of relevant conversation it can be worth checking whether there are different interpretations people put on such terms.

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That’s why, to me, BlueSky is just the far-left community
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To me, BlueSky is more like a Disney app, everything needs to be inclusive, diverse, while X is more like..
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I'm not totally sure but it looks like you may be confusing far left with inclusivity and diversity. Hence maybe, after all, it is worth asking what you do mean by far left. As far as I'm concerned it means radical or extreme anti-capitalism, and often (as with any radical or extremist views whether left or right) sometimes with violent or fascist tendencies - but not necessarily, especially if you look at pure Marxist ideals. However the ones I've known were more bothered about economics and revolution rather than anything to do with such noble aspirations as diversity and inclusivity which are surely good basic concepts unless used in a corrupt or insincere way.

So I've not seen any evidence of far left on Bluesky, but then I haven't looked around it much - I'm not saying they aren't there - I'd be surprised if they aren't.
 
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I tried Blue Sky. It's just a Twitter clone for the most part and it reminds me of a previous iteration of Twitter's design. It's basically a left wing echo chamber, similar to how Truth Social is a right wing echo chamber, and while I'm sure it'll find it's niche audience I don't think it's going to appeal to most people. This is not the Twitter killer the left seems to think it is. Ironically, just as much as Truth Social wasn't the Twitter killer Trump thought it would be.

Hate "X" all you want (which is petty imo), but tbh the platform is continuing to grow and is less-biased than the other platforms.
 
Wing said:
Hate "X" all you want (which is petty imo), but tbh the platform is continuing to grow and is less-biased than the other platforms.
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On planet Earth, X has been on a downward trend since Musk took over. In its first year under him, it lost 14% of its traffic. This trend continued though 2024.
 
MySiteGuy said:
On planet Earth, X has been on a downward trend since Musk took over. In its first year under him, it lost 14% of its traffic. This trend continued though 2024.
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Correct, since Twitter was majority left-leaning userbase (naturally 14% of people world wide will leave the platform). Most of those users left due to "Elon Musk bad" ect. and looked to other platforms for their echo-chambers. If a bunch of leftist journos want to build a silo so they can gaslight themselves into thinking they're the mainstream, they're certainly free to do that.

With that said, alot of people are jumping ship already on Bluesky or Trump Social - and coming back to X.
 
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Downward! On the contrary, It's a better place without all those wets :)
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But isn't any platform better if all kinds of opinions are allowed, rather than everyone just agreeing with each other and patting each other on the back. When it comes to politics though I don't think people change their mind much based on rational and thought provoking debate
 
Mr Lucky said:
But isn't any platform better if all kinds of opinions are allowed
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That's what X is. TruthSocial is the right wing, Blue Sky is the left wing, X is the one for all and everyone (and yes, that includes porn, very dark/racist humor, conspiracy stuff, and all that).

Which is why I'm happy with the Community Notes feature, that even gets applied to Elon's tweets.
 
Wing said:
Correct, since Twitter was majority left-leaning userbase (naturally 14% of people world wide will leave the platform). Most of those users left due to "Elon Musk bad" ect. and looked to other platforms for their echo-chambers. If a bunch of leftist journos want to build a silo so they can gaslight themselves into thinking they're the mainstream, they're certainly free to do that.
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You said "the platform is continuing to grow", which is false, now you concede it's not. So which is it?

Wing said:
With that said, alot of people are jumping ship already on Bluesky or Trump Social - and coming back to X.
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To the contrary, Bluesky has seen a growth spike the past month, and that spike coincides with a loss spike on X. And X is well aware of this, because soon afterward they made changes throttling posts with outside links.
 
MySiteGuy said:
You said "the platform is continuing to grow", which is false, now you concede it's not. So which is it?

To the contrary, Bluesky has seen a growth spike the past month, and that spike coincides with a loss spike on X. And X is well aware of this, because soon afterward they made changes throttling posts with outside links.
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Remember when people fled to "Threads" for about 3 hours before they came back? Same thing. All the people I saw saying they were quitting X for Bluesky have already started posting on X again. Just has taken a much longer timescale for them to see Bluesky is another liberal silo. People now a days are more and more looking for Non-echo chamber platforms regardless of side of the aisle.

Tbh, and this is just an assumption, Twitter aka X seems to be just fine despite the left's continued insistence that it's dying or in some sort of helpless situation. Elon made Twitter better (in theory). With that said, if you disagree with that, 9 times out of 10... You're a liberal. You never got banned for having the "wrong opinion". You've never been shadow banned. You've never had your account limited on that old Twitter platform pre-Elon days.

I guess the platform would seem like it's gone to Hell when it's gone from favoring your side to equalizing the views of everyone. No one is leaving Twitter. The Guardian wants and needs your clicks just as much as anything else. This the digital version of an American screaming "I'm moving to Canada". The moment all these people and all these groups realize no one cares, no one is following them, and they're just wasting time in an echo chamber - that will be the moment they come running back... because it's about attention seeking. Nothing more and nothing less. We've all seen it happen before. This isn't the first time and it wont be the last.
 
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Wing said:
Remember when people fled to "Threads" for about 3 hours before they came back? Same thing. All the people I saw saying they were quitting X for Bluesky have already started posting on X again. Just has taken a much longer timescale for them to see Bluesky is another liberal silo. People now a days are more and more looking for Non-echo chamber platforms regardless of side of the aisle.
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Please show me your data source backing this up. Because frankly, so far you've complained about things like "left wing", "liberal", etc. while claiming to be looking for non-echo chambers while visiting a huge one (X), and making stuff up about growth. I'm not seeing a lot of fact.

Wing said:
Tbh, and this is just an assumption, Twitter aka X seems to be just fine despite the left's continued insistence that it's dying or in some sort of helpless situation.
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If losing traffic and revenue is your definition of "just fine", then I'd agree with you. But the reality is a business in decline is not "just fine".

Wing said:
Elon made Twitter better. With that said, if you disagree with that, 9 times out of 10... You're a liberal. You never got banned for having the "wrong opinion". You've never been shadow banned. You've never had your account limited on that old Twitter platform pre-Elon days.
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Non-spam account suspensions are up about 300% since Musk took over, while traffic is lower.


Wing said:
I guess the platform would seem like it's gone to Hell when it's gone from favoring your side to equalizing the views of everyone.
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"Your side?" I haven't stated a side. You're the one being the partisan, talking about "sides" and complaining about "liberals", the "left", etc.

Wing said:
No one is leaving Twitter. The Guardian wants and needs your clicks just as much as anything else. This the digital version of "I'm moving to Canada". The moment all these people and all these groups realize no one cares, no one is following them, and they're just wasting time in an echo chamber - that will be the moment they come running back... because it's about attention seeking. Nothing more and nothing less. We've all seen it happen before. This isn't the first time and it wont be the last.
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Please present facts which show their traffic and user base isn't down.
 
Starbucks said:
X is the one for all and everyone (and yes, that includes porn, very dark/racist humor
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So not a good place for people who aren't racists or do not wish to engage with racists who excuse their racism with "can't take a joke". I don't think there is any excuse for any kind of racism is there?
 
MySiteGuy said:
Please show me your data source backing this up. Because frankly, so far you've complained about things like "left wing", "liberal", etc. while claiming to be looking for non-echo chambers while visiting a huge one (X), and making stuff up about growth. I'm not seeing a lot of fact.


If losing traffic and revenue is your definition of "just fine", then I'd agree with you. But the reality is a business in decline is not "just fine".



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Non-spam account suspensions are up about 300% since Musk took over, while traffic is lower.




"Your side?" I haven't stated a side. You're the one being the partisan, talking about "sides" and complaining about "liberals", the "left", etc.



Please present facts which show their traffic and user base isn't down.
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The only reason why I bring up the Liberals or Left, is because they are the userbase that continues to complain and blow the trumpet about "X" and Elon Musk. Doesnt mean I am being partisan. As I said in earlier post, if thats what they desire... then so be it. But its become exhausting.

This is probably, because the left never experienced Twitter when they weren't the favored sons. It was always infested with bots and blatant misinformation - the point is the tip of the spear was always pointed at the right wing - and now it's just pointed at everyone equally. Other than making the platform fairer and less hostile to other views Elon hasn't actually changed it that much. I think we're at an impasse because I don't think you can experience what we've experienced over the years because in your mind, your ideology is cool. It's accepted. You are not in the crosshairs.

Well, we can simply agree to disagree. I don't think someone throwing rocks from on top of a glass house can understand the plight of a person on the ground. Simply put. We are different. Things are balanced now and maybe Twitter needs the rot to leave before it can truly recover. Either way, your topic is about Elon Musk bad and Blue Sky good. The latest post election outburst fad is Blue Sky imo.
 
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Ferry said:
And yes, I don't understand what drama around X you're talking about at all. The platform is growing and evolving, there are plenty of opinions from all sides, political battles and content for all tastes (including 18+). X doesn't create a bubble for liberals or conservatives like bluesky does, where you get stoned if you put a US flag on your avatar.
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I've been a member of Twitter X for a few years but its only now that I'm really enjoying it. I love calling ******** on some of the stuff and calling for fact checks.
 
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