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I did. Interesting.
I tried Blue Sky. It's just a Twitter clone for the most part and it reminds me of a previous iteration of Twitter's design. It's basically a left wing echo chamber, similar to how Truth Social is a right wing echo chamber, and while I'm sure it'll find it's niche audience I don't think it's going to appeal to most people. This is not the Twitter killer the left seems to think it is. Ironically, just as much as Truth Social wasn't the Twitter killer Trump thought it would be.
I do have a BlueSky account which I created when it was still invite only, so during the first phase of exodus of people from Twitter. At that time three things were remarkable (and it may well be that the usage of the platform may have differed between US and Germany and maybe still does):
1. it indeed clearly reminded of a earlier version of Twitter. But not because of the design but because of the way more friendly culture and way of communicating. Almost too fluffy bunny for my taste.
2. indeed, at that time there were no extreme right-wing on BlueSky. There were left-wing people but also conservative people, at least here in Germany. What wasn't there (and I do not by accident not say "what was missing" because I did not miss it) was the far right.
3. What was indeed missing back then was three things: A relevant amount of users, a more equal distribution between progressive and conservative users and almost all of the international accounts from various topics that I was following. The latter was what made BlueSky fail on me - I mainly used Twitter for international voices that are hard to impossible to get hold of otherwise and those lacked completely at that time.
So I did not dive deeper into Bluesky - simply because it did not fit my needs and lacked relevance. Maybe I should give it another try because time has moved on and possibly the situation has enhanced.
Hate "X" all you want (which is petty imo), but tbh the platform is continuing to grow and is less-biased than the other platforms.
As I said: I don't agree here. Twitter was not biased, X today is more than biased.
Correct, since Twitter was majority left-leaning userbase (naturally 14% of people world wide will leave the platform). Most of those users left due to "Elon Musk bad" ect. and looked to other platforms for their echo-chambers. If a bunch of leftist journos want to build a silo so they can gaslight themselves into thinking they're the mainstream, they're certainly free to do that.
Surely there are people that want to have echo-chambers (left and right). I am not at all interested in that. Clearly, X has become way more rightwing than it used to be. The thing that I am wondering, expecially given that many seem to prefer todays X to the former Twitter: Does a share of right wing opinion really have to go along with this dominant amount of aggression, threats, disinformation and personal attacks? Is this a given when non-left-wing opinions become part of a platform?
Personally I am interested in opinions that I may not share. But I am not interested in aggression and bullying and clearly not in disinformation. In my opinion it should not be a problem to have a conservative or right-wing opinion and to still have manners and behaviour. And obviously it should be possible to have a conservative opinion w/o spreading false information or disinformation. But reality seems to prove me wrong.
Basically the reason why many people left Twitter was not other opinions - it was the communication style that massively changed towards aggression.
It seems pretty clear that the extreme right (same as the extreme left) cannot live without lies, diffamation, fake news and disinformation. That's what powers their engines. What makes me wonder is that this is tolerated or even welcomed by people that are not extremists.
With that said, alot of people are jumping ship already on Bluesky or Trump Social - and coming back to X.
That was the case but atm we are in the middle of a second or maybe third or forth wave - an I would not bet that people are again coming back. If X continues the current course it could well be a terminal exit for many if not most. Simply because the continuous spiral of hate, destructiveness and agression costs energy and has no advantage to anyone apart from aggessive haters - so why should anyone deal with it if he or she does not have to?
I am not interesting in talking to people that are yelling, lying and insulting all the time and I am not the only one. Interestingly the yellers seem to misinterpret that people stop dicussing with them by believing that this would be proof that they are right or have one anyling. While in reality people are just too annoyed by their behaviour.
Downward! On the contrary, It's a better place without all those wets
So you prefer a right wing echo bubble?
But isn't any platform better if all kinds of opinions are allowed, rather than everyone just agreeing with each other and patting each other on the back. When it comes to politics though I don't think people change their mind much based on rational and thought provoking debate
Exactly. And as on X there's barely anything left that could be called a debate but just yelling at each other instead of asking and debating there is only little value left on X, let alone attractiveness. Except obviously if you are part of the yelling, disinformation or aggression cohort - in this case you prefer playing in the mud.
Which is why I'm happy with the Community Notes feature, that even gets applied to Elon's tweets.
The community notes are indeed a very good invention.
I guess the platform would seem like it's gone to Hell when it's gone from favoring your side to equalizing the views of everyone. No one is leaving Twitter.
In opposite: People are leaving in masses, at least here in Germany. Not only people but also companies and institutions. Twitter is loosing relevance massively, constantly and ongoingly. Mainly because it is not equalizing opinions but favoring the extreme right and hate and aggression.
The only reason why I bring up the Liberals or Left, is because they are the userbase that continues to complain and blow the trumpet about "X" and Elon Musk. Doesnt mean I am being partisan.
Typically the constant whining is more the expertise of the right wing side that seem unable to deal with someone having an opinion different from their own. That's where all the aggresseion comes from (and often from being malinformed and/or not having any arguments besides beliefs).
Interestingly the right wings have a point when they complain that they are regulated more often than others. But that's not policical censorship as they claim. The reason is simply that they misbehave or spread disinformation way more often than others as science has found out:
We find that conservatives tend to share more low-quality news through social media than liberals, and so even if technology companies enact politically neutral anti-misinformation policies, political asymmetries in enforcement should be expected.
www.nature.com
So basically it is not the political orientation but bad behaviour or destructive and dangereous spread of misinformation that causes this.
Apart from that Musk, owning twitter, can be a threat to an open society. Especially when combined with a person like Trump and an army of aggressive, furious, but ill informed people that falsely believe they would be very clever and consider themselves not only more clever but also worth more than other persons.
