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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayors_Against_Illegal_Guns


Mayors Against Illegal Guns (MAIG) is a coalition of over 600 mayors[2] who support a number of gun control initiatives that the group calls "commonsense reforms" to fight illegal gun trafficking and gun violence in the United States. Most recently the group has focused on an effort to defeat a bill in Congress that would require each state to recognize carry licenses issued by other states.[3]
The group was formed on April 25, 2006, during a summit held at Gracie Mansion in New York City that was hosted by Boston Mayor Thomas Menino and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who serve as co-chairs of the coalition.
The initial group consisted of 15 mayors that signed a statement of principles[4] and set a goal to expand their membership to 50 mayors by the end of 2006. As of November 2009, there were 522 mayors listed on the membership roster at the MAIG website.


http://mayorsagainstillegalguns.org/
what do illegal guns have to do with registered firearms... seems like a front for an anti gun campaign


I DEMAND A PLAN
The horrific school shooting in Newtown, CT is the latest devastating example of the toll of gun violence. It's time for our leaders to take action.
Every day, 34 people are murdered with guns in this country. The "I Demand A Plan" video project records the personal stories of Americans whose lives were forever changed by these tragedies.
http://www.demandaplan.org/
Yet when some kid dies from tainted meat there is libel laws protecting the companies responsible
https://www.google.com/search?q=kid...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
You don't hear those touching stories do you?


Agenda before the event
 
In our country, technically speaking...either you own a gun because you are law enforcement... or you own it just 'cus. Hunting, sporting, defense as a civilian are all just 'cus

And therein lies the problem ;) There is no reasoning on why you own a gun, people can get them just 'cus they can.

Over here, you must have a valid reason for owning a gun or air rifle. The privilege is at the discression of the police, who have the power to revoke your weapon or license at any point if they deem you no longer have a good reason to own said weapon. They also have the power to request access to your home at any point to ensure your gun is stored securely and safely. The earnest falls onto the owner to show they are responsible.

If I went to renew my license today and my answer as to why would be "just cus" I would be denied. As it should be.
 
There is major appetite in America for sweeping gun legislation.
It will definitely happen.
A Ban on Assault Rifles identical to 1994 is very likely.
Ideally something more thorough will happen as well.

Allowing people to carry concealed weapons should be banned.
We don't get around in Conestoga Wagons anymore.
 
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Yeah !!!!
I'd like to buy the Bushmaster AR15 brand and rename it
PeopleKillingMaster AR15.
 
And therein lies the problem ;) There is no reasoning on why you own a gun, people can get them just 'cus they can.

Over here, you must have a valid reason for owning a gun or air rifle. The privilege is at the discression of the police, who have the power to revoke your weapon or license at any point if they deem you no longer have a good reason to own said weapon. They also have the power to request access to your home at any point to ensure your gun is stored securely and safely. The earnest falls onto the owner to show they are responsible.

If I went to renew my license today and my answer as to why would be "just cus" I would be denied. As it should be.
Yeah but this is America and as long as you follow the rules...what you have a gun for is your business. That is they way America works...if you are within the rules , it is your business and you have a right to keep your activities to yourself. It is in the constitution and the reason why you want a gun here is not important...what is important is that you know how to safely handle and store a firearm. It is not a problem....because if someone really wants a gun for a crime it is easier to get a gun illegally than legally and making them illegal will make more people illegal gun owners...because they are not giving them up therefor turning people who follow the rules a criminal for doing nothing different then they were doing the day before. True story.


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Yeah !!!!
I'd like to buy the Bushmaster AR15 brand and rename it
PeopleKillingMaster AR15.
You do realize that no gun is deadlier than the next right? You do realize you can kill someone with a slingshot just as fast as a single gun shot right? Have you ever even fired a gun?
 
Responsible gun owners with long guns have one these...with responsible guns owners..you have guns that don't exist to anyone else in the world...so the benefit of one more good guy with a gun and none of the downside...
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funny that anti gun people don't acknowledge things like this...
 
You do realize that no gun is deadlier than the next right? You do realize you can kill someone with a slingshot just as fast as a single gun shot right?
If you will allow the ban of all guns and accept slingshots as legal weapons, I'll take that.

===== New Plan == The National Musket Program ====

I think the founding fathers were right.
All Americans should be allowed to carry a gun.

As of this moment, I do hereby:
(1) Ban all current guns outright. All.
(2) Every American will be issued a "Founding Fathers" Musket .. as depicted here. They will be issued by local mayors to their citizens. People can choose to carry them anywhere they want.

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(3) Now everyone is happy and the second amendment is still respected.
 
funny that anti gun people don't acknowledge things like this...
It's just not reliable enough as the weak link is the gun owner.
People will forget to lock it.
People will give the combo to non-gun owners.
etc.
etc.
It is no solution.

America should just adopt the gun laws in place in other countries that are reasonable places.
 
If you will allow the ban of all guns and accept slingshots as legal weapons, I'll take that.

===== New Plan ======

I think the founding fathers were right.
All Americans should be allowed to carry a gun.

As of this moment, I do hereby:
(1) Ban all current guns outright. All.
(2) Every American will be issued a "Founding Fathers" Musket .. as depicted here. They will be issued by local mayors to their citizens. People can choose to carry them anywhere they want.

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(3) Now everyone is happy and the second amendment is still respected.
If you knew anything about guns....you would know that a black powder or muzzle-loading firearm has a higher chance of accident (you do load one of those by using your hand and jamming a ram rod into the barrel where you have a charge and a projectile )....not to mention that the powder could be used as bomb making materials which you need to store in your home....so unless you are using a modern substitute you also could die from a static shock....


again a gun locked in a safe can't kill anyone....care to comment on that...

Nice try though....
 
So ok ...the problem in the case with this recent event was that an individual choose not to observe the law when storing a firearm and allowed access to a minor who also had mental issues.

So how is the gun the problem or at fault?
 
So how is the gun the problem or at fault?
People use guns to kill others. Just like Adam Lanza did.
if Nancy Lanza didn't possess a Weapon of Mass Killing (Bushmaster AR15) ... Sandy would not have happened.

Should I be allowed to possess a Nuclear bomb if I lock it up in your locker ?
 
People use guns to kill others. Just like Adam Lanza did.
if Nancy Lanza didn't possess a Weapon of Mass Killing (Bushmaster AR15) ... Sandy would not have happened.

Should I be allowed to possess a Nuclear bomb if I lock it up in your locker ?
Possessing a nuke device is illegal period and that is way beyond US law,

People Kill other people with cars too, my mothers friends had her throat slashed open in high school right in front of her...will you make cars and knives illegal....what about aspirin...you know how many people die from aspirin every year?



And again...that gun is a smaller caliber than most pistols...and here is a pistol being reloaded....
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how long do you think it takes him to put 30 through the pipe?

Do you really think the type of gun matters?
 
You ignored my post following that....
If you knew anything about guns....you would know that a black powder or muzzle-loading firearm has a higher chance of accident (you do load one of those by using your hand and jamming a ram rod into the barrel where you have a charge and a projectile )....not to mention that the powder could be used as bomb making materials which you need to store in your home....so unless you are using a modern substitute you also could die from a static shock....
Nice try though....

I didn't even bring up misfires or hangfires...
 
You think more people are going to die from the National Musket program than the 30,000 Americans that will be killed by guns in Obama's second term ?
No I think more kids getting their hands on raw black powder and matches will cause more death but yeah you thought of that....do you even understand how a black powder rifle works?
 
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