The Dark Wizard
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CBI Web
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Okay, so I installed Opera 11.11 last night, due to this thread. It wasn't long before I started seeing why I can't yet use it.
1. I don't like that I can't have a bookmarks menu right on the tool bar. With Opera I have to click the upper-right Menu button, then move down to hover over the Bookmarks link to make the bookmarks list appear. So click, move, hover; whereas in Firefox it's one click and you're there.
2. Restoring closed tabs is odd. It restores the tab as a new floating window, and then I have to double click the title bar to lock it into the browser as an actual tab. In Firefox, right click any tab to restore it, and that's it. Although Opera's redeeming quality is the ability to choose which tab to restore, whereas in Firefox , if you want to restore a tab from 4 tabs ago, you have to restore each tab until you get to the one you really want. So the pro and con kinda cancel each other out on this one.
3. This one isn't Opera's fault, it's just something I depend on so much that I really can't live without it. The Speed Dial extension for Firefox is awesome, as it allows for tabbed dials. So in each tab there are multiple dials that relate to one particular topic. For instance, one tab contains dials for my business site, the forums for that site, the cPanel page, the client area of my host (for billing and helpdesk, etc.), Google Analytics, Adsense, yada yada. Everything related to my business site is in one tab. Another tab has similar dials for client's sites that I work on. It's a very organized and efficient speed dial system. But Opera doesn't have one like that... yet. If they ever do, that's a huge plus to convert me.
4. Another non-fault of Opera: vital extensions that help me with web development. I'm sure (hope!) that in time someone will write similar extensions for Opera, but until then I just can't use it as my main browser. I use the Web for work 90% of the time, so my browser needs to be set up for that.
All that being said, Opera has come a long way, and really if I wasn't making my living online, it could easily be the one.
1. I don't like that I can't have a bookmarks menu right on the tool bar. With Opera I have to click the upper-right Menu button, then move down to hover over the Bookmarks link to make the bookmarks list appear. So click, move, hover; whereas in Firefox it's one click and you're there.
2. Restoring closed tabs is odd. It restores the tab as a new floating window, and then I have to double click the title bar to lock it into the browser as an actual tab. In Firefox, right click any tab to restore it, and that's it. Although Opera's redeeming quality is the ability to choose which tab to restore, whereas in Firefox , if you want to restore a tab from 4 tabs ago, you have to restore each tab until you get to the one you really want. So the pro and con kinda cancel each other out on this one.
3. This one isn't Opera's fault, it's just something I depend on so much that I really can't live without it. The Speed Dial extension for Firefox is awesome, as it allows for tabbed dials. So in each tab there are multiple dials that relate to one particular topic. For instance, one tab contains dials for my business site, the forums for that site, the cPanel page, the client area of my host (for billing and helpdesk, etc.), Google Analytics, Adsense, yada yada. Everything related to my business site is in one tab. Another tab has similar dials for client's sites that I work on. It's a very organized and efficient speed dial system. But Opera doesn't have one like that... yet. If they ever do, that's a huge plus to convert me.
4. Another non-fault of Opera: vital extensions that help me with web development. I'm sure (hope!) that in time someone will write similar extensions for Opera, but until then I just can't use it as my main browser. I use the Web for work 90% of the time, so my browser needs to be set up for that.
All that being said, Opera has come a long way, and really if I wasn't making my living online, it could easily be the one.
Forsaken
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1. Right Click -> Customize -> Check 'Bookmark Bar'.
2. You can restore closed tabs with ctrl+z or there is a button in the top right that shows every closed tab for that session.
3. I don't think I'd ever use a huge speed dial system... I only use 4 speed dials because they're the sites I visit the most often. If I need another site I visit almost as often I just start typing the domain and it'll open up.
4. Did you give Dragonfly a try? Its a built-in feature of Opera that is better (in my opinion) than Firebug and a few other tools. The way extensions are done make them a bit lacking as I haven't seen many that actually modify anything but the extension area on Opera. Hopefully as they mature their extension system, it'll get better.
CBI Web
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I already have bookmarks in the bookmarks bar, but I want a dedicated bookmarks button that drops down a menu with all the rest of my bookmarks, as seen in this Firefox screenshot. It acts just like a folder on the Bookmarks Toolbar.
OOOOOOoooooooo, now that is nice!
I knew about the other button, too, but the ctrl+z dissolves my argument about that feature.
Most people probably don't need a huge system, but I manage a lot of sites and pages, so the Firefox extension is a big help in making it easier than using bookmark folders in the bookmarks bar.
I haven't played with it yet, but I really like the Web Developer toolbar in Firefox, which is a different kind of tool altogether. Chrome has a version of it, too, but still not as flexible and feature rich as Firefox's.
Forsaken
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I already have bookmarks in the bookmarks bar, but I want a dedicated bookmarks button that drops down a menu with all the rest of my bookmarks, as seen in this Firefox screenshot. It acts just like a folder on the Bookmarks Toolbar.
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OOOOOOoooooooo, now that is nice!
I knew about the other button, too, but the ctrl+z dissolves my argument about that feature.
Most people probably don't need a huge system, but I manage a lot of sites and pages, so the Firefox extension is a big help in making it easier than using bookmark folders in the bookmarks bar.
I haven't played with it yet, but I really like the Web Developer toolbar in Firefox, which is a different kind of tool altogether. Chrome has a version of it, too, but still not as flexible and feature rich as Firefox's.
I'd find that kind of annoying... I usually just use ctrl+b and bring up the sidebar which has all of the panels there (Bookmarks, Widgets, Downloads, History and you can add more). You also have the ability to make it a floating panel which will create a tab for it which is pinnable.
I tend to use ctrl+z a lot, Reading List (https://addons.opera.com/addons/extensions/details/reading-list/1.3/?display=en) and Tab Vault (https://addons.opera.com/addons/extensions/details/tab-vault/2.2.1/?display=en).
Yeah I don't see the majority needing something like that, but I can see how it would be useful for some. I prefer the simplicity of the auto-complete in the address bar.
I never used the Webdeveloper Toolbar much... There were a few things I used, but most of it wasn't that useful. Opera also has a lot of the features built in and it doesn't add much overhead.
My main issue with Firefox was the CPU/RAM issues, and how it would slow down to a crawl. Only time Opera gets slow is when I have a ton of flash sites open at once.
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bogus
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Opera is quit a good Browser, no Call Back in a way Chrome is using it, well, ok you can use Iron but there i am missing a few things...
If it would be possible to get Adblock for Opera i would use it, but unfortunately its just using filter.ini thats not working proper like Adblock.
Firefox has a big Problem at all. Its taking so much Ram. Even if you configure it to hell, which should not the way to use a browser.
If it would be possible to get Adblock for Opera i would use it, but unfortunately its just using filter.ini thats not working proper like Adblock.
Firefox has a big Problem at all. Its taking so much Ram. Even if you configure it to hell, which should not the way to use a browser.
Forsaken
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bogus
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Oh damn. I did not knew that. Looks like i have my new browser. FF4 ist really a pain in the ass when it comes to the ram. From a german forum i know there are a lot ppl arguying about ff4 and going all back to 3
Forsaken
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For those of you who wish to torture yourself...
https://addons.opera.com/addons/extensions/details/let-there-be-comic-sans/1.0/?display=en
https://addons.opera.com/addons/extensions/details/let-there-be-comic-sans/1.0/?display=en
ToDie4
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Maybe I have Dragonfly set-up badly or something, but have you noticed when clicking an element you also have to click the expand tab above the css to make the used css reload for the matching element selected?
Forsaken
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I don't have that issue.
ToDie4
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Seriously, must be just me then, that's annoying as it's the only thing stopping me from switching from FF to Opera, oh well, that's life I suppose.
Peggy
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Really? I don't find Firefox to be slow or clunky at all. It's fast and predictable, never crashes- at least it doesn't for me. I also don't have any of the memory isssues that people talk about, nor do i find the every 2 to 3 week updates particularly irritating.
In short, I love Firefox.
x4rl
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This guy has some tips in his profile that might help youSeriously, must be just me then, that's annoying as it's the only thing stopping me from switching from FF to Opera, oh well, that's life I suppose.
http://my.opera.com/theoriginalgri/about/
x4rl
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I don't give two ****s if Opera is number one for the next 10 years
I will never use that crap for me its one of the worst other than IE ofcI remmber them crying over what brower came with windows
never will forget that."MS: make windows" "Opera: wait a sec you cant add your own brower to your own product!" ahh yea never did work that out myself.
Not that this will do any good after reading all your posts on here I can tell your a opera fan-boy so like I said this is my opinion
Forsaken
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Every other browser vendor complained along with Opera, so it wasn't just them.I don't give two ****s if Opera is number one for the next 10 years
I remmber them crying over what brower came with windows
"MS: make windows" "Opera: wait a sec you cant add your own brower to your own product!" ahh yea never did work that out myself.
Not that this will do any good after reading all your posts on here I can tell your a opera fan-boy so like I said this is my opinion
And I'm not an Opera fanboy, I'll use any browser that shows a benefit to me, I just have issues with other ones, just as you have issues with Opera.
Firefox development has been lacking since FF2 (Nearly everyone admits it), and the only reason to use it is the Extensions, which just increase the issues with RAM/CPU.
I use Chrome for a few things, but its buggy as hell still and pre-fetching causes issues with how my home system is setup. Without pre-fetching its slower than IE.
I won't use Internet Explorer because its laggy and slow and just not as easy to use.
I use what I find the easiest for me to use, with the largest benefit and admit any flaws. If you read most posts, I only responded when people said features are missing and pointed them towards the feature or to the alternatives presented in the software.
Clearly you don't get what a fanboy is, which is someone who will defend a product without admitting flaws, which I will do.
Opera has a lot of useless features most people won't ever use. The bittorrent client is nothing more than a 6th rate client, the extensions aren't robust enough and don't integrate well like Firefoxes, themeing is basic (which I actually prefer), there is a large learning curve due to the sheer amount of options it offers, and the community of Opera users is mostly made of trolls and fanboys who will not admit flaw in the software.
I honestly wouldn't care what software people use, I just prefer people give something they badmouth a solid chance. If you can't give something a week trial it means you've already made up your mind and never had any intention of really trying it so any comment you make is nothing more than an attempt at trolling.
Also, you totally took a joke statement out of context and made a fool of yourself. Great job
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Forsaken
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Clearly you're just looking for a fight and attempting to derail a threadFool to who the net? because of your wall of text. I'll remmber that when down in the pub
by the way it was Opera who started it all vs windows
.They opened it up after talks with other major browser vendors at the time, who then joined in later on. Wasn't just Opera, and clearly many people agreed with the complaint. We can argue semantics over it, but it'll serve no point and just derail the thread further so why don't we just agree we have different opinions and avoid pointless banter that'll get no one anywhere.
x4rl
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Fight no not all, far to many of them on here.Clearly you're just looking for a fight and attempting to derail a thread
They opened it up after talks with other major browser vendors at the time, who then joined in later on. Wasn't just Opera, and clearly many people agreed with the complaint. We can argue semantics over it, but it'll serve no point and just derail the thread further so why don't we just agree we have different opinions and avoid pointless banter that'll get no one anywhere.
Oh I do agree we have different opinions that's for sure
I did say lot that it was "my opinion" never said any different.
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