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Do I need Advanced search?

Discussion in 'XenForo Pre-Sales Questions' started by tommydamic68, Aug 10, 2013.

  1. tommydamic68

    tommydamic68 Well-Known Member

    Hi all,
    There is an option to purchase the advanced search when buying Xenforo, do I really need it? I have approximately over 245,000 posts on my current vb forum.


  2. MattW

    MattW Well-Known Member

    We have just gone over 240,000 posts, and we have been using it for a while now. It provides better search results, as it has stemming analyser for various languages, so you can get different versions of the words being searched for as well.

    eg: Cheat
  3. RobParker

    RobParker Well-Known Member

    Note that ES requires quite a bit of memory but if your adware can handle it then its worth it.
  4. JulianD

    JulianD Well-Known Member

    I'm trying to run ES on a 512mb vps. I know, I know. It wouldn't scale very well but so far it has been working fine.
  5. RobParker

    RobParker Well-Known Member

    I think some provided a rule of thumb of 1GB of RAM per million posts. I could be wrong though so maybe double check.
  6. MattW

    MattW Well-Known Member

    That is what @Slavik recommends in the set up thread.
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  7. tommydamic68

    tommydamic68 Well-Known Member

    In layman terms? I currently am hosted by Hostgator.com on a shared network. A no- go? :whistle:
  8. RobParker

    RobParker Well-Known Member

    Probably :-(
  9. Andrej

    Andrej Well-Known Member

  10. tommydamic68

    tommydamic68 Well-Known Member

    That's too bad, would have loved to use it! With that being said, not sure what VB uses but I never had a complaint from a member about a search and I generally find what I am looking for flawlessly! i hope Xenforo's bare bones search feature is at least as good as VB3 has on my site. thoughts?
  11. Jeremy

    Jeremy XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    I've never had issues with search.
  12. Tracy Perry

    Tracy Perry Well-Known Member

    It "could" be better though. I know several times I've done searches and it would not turn up what I was looking for. :p
  13. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Any limitations in the default search are due to MySQL search though.

    Here's some relevant information from the FAQ:

    Why can't I search for words with 3 characters or less?
    This is a limitation of the MySQL Full Text search function. Find more information on the MySQL site.
    Note that with XenForo 1.1 and above, it is now possible to set the minimum word length in the ACP -> Options -> Search Options: Search Minimum Word Length; this value must correspond with the MySQL full text minimum word length in the my.cnf configuration file.

    Why can't I search for certain words?
    The MySQL search function has what are called stopwords, which are typically common words, and are excluded from searches. Find more information on the MySQL site.
    Note that the XenForo Enhanced Search add-on, which is installed here on XenForo.com, does not suffer the same constraints as default MySQL search does with regards to minimum word length and stop words. The stopwords for elasticsearch are listed here.

    How do I search using OR instead of AND?
    Use "|" between words, for example: xenforo | software

  14. Tracy Perry

    Tracy Perry Well-Known Member

    @Brogan, do you know what template off the top of your head that would be edited so that this information could be relayed on the search box that pops up when you click in the search field. It would probably help the end user if an example (as you did) was given there.
  15. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Which search?

    The quick search on the forum index/threads or the actual search page?
  16. Tracy Perry

    Tracy Perry Well-Known Member

    I've got it on the search page, but the quick search is what I'm trying to get to work.
    Think I may have found it... search_bar?

    Got it... it is search_bar - and now I just need to shorten it a little. :p
  17. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Yes, search_bar for the quick search.

    Be aware though there are three templates for the main search: search_form, search_form_post, search_form_profile_post
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  18. Tracy Perry

    Tracy Perry Well-Known Member

    Thanks... looks good and should be helpful for those that are not sure how to combine words for search terms now.
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  19. imno007

    imno007 Active Member

    I've also noticed that certain punctuation is sometimes an issue. If, for example, you search titles for keywords separated by more than one hyphen it will return zero results. There's been a couple more I can't remember off the top of my head. I'm mostly happy with the default Xenforo search, though, I've certainly encountered worse.

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