Could be the biggest news EVER

[Wired]

Fred can probably fill this in better as he seems to have a deeper understanding. IIRC Einstein saw that as something approached the speed of light, time would slow down and stop at the speed of light. I think even he had trouble though with greater than light speed. Does SR totally preclude >c?

Time doesn't slow down, it just APPEARS to slow down. There's actually a decent explanation of this in Young Einstein

 

[mrGTB]

This could be the most exciting news ever and could change what we view as our limits to move among the stars.

However...

I suspect what will be the case is that a number of neutrinos were able to pass through Einstein Rosen bridges in the quantum foam. They don't travel faster than light, it only appears that way to the external observer.

I think it's very important news. When you think about space travel to other solar systems and the time it would have took and the limits it imposed, judging from us never being able to travel faster than the speed of light. The implications are just huge! It opens the door with space travel and possible Stella exploration well beyond what we've always thought possible

 

[grant sarver]

I think it's very important news. When you think about space travel to other solar systems and the time it would have took and the limits it imposed, judging from us never being able to travel faster than the speed of light. The implications are just huge! It opens the door with space travel and possible Stella exploration well beyond what we've always thought possible

"Stella exploration"? I've often wanted to explore Stella!

 

[mrGTB]

I know, don't know what's gotten into my keyboard lately. Seems to have a mind of it own.

 

[Kevin]

"Stella exploration"? I've often wanted to explore Stella!

Stella doesn't seem too interested.

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[MarcosPreviato]

great news, the universe is so big!

 

[SneakyDave]

As I understand it, these results were due to GPS movements not being taken into account or misconstrued while the test was being performed?

Sounds simple enough to believe for me!

EDIT: Sorry, I didn't realize the potential answer was already provided. Interesting science discussion though!

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/17/remember-those-faster-than-light-neutrinos-great-now-forget-e/

 

[Digital Doctor]

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn21328-fasterthanlight-neutrinos-dealt-another-blow.html

Faster than Light = Fail.
Never a doubt really.
Stupid media.

 

[Jake Bunce]

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn21328-fasterthanlight-neutrinos-dealt-another-blow.html

Faster than Light = Fail.
Never a doubt really.
Stupid media.

If the neutrino thing is true then new scientific theories will have to be made. This is not a blow. It is the nature of science. Good scientists are actually eager to disprove existing theories because that is progress. It's not like the existence of faster than light neutrinos will dispose of the light speed barrier. You just have to change light speed theory to allow an exception for neutrinos. Easy.

 

[Jake Bunce]

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[Digital Doctor]

CERN experiment had "loose wires".
Major Face Palm.

Faster-than-light neutrinos: Was Einstein wrong or was the wire loose?

GENEVA/CHICAGO—The world of science was upended last year when an experiment appeared to show one of Einstein’s fundamental theories was wrong — but now the lab behind it says the result could have been caused by a loose cable.

Physicists at the CERN research institute near Geneva appeared to contradict Albert Einstein’s 1905 Special Theory of Relativity last year when they reported that sub-atomic particles called neutrinos could travel fractions of a second faster than light.

Einstein’s Special Theory of Relativity, which underpins the current view of how the universe works, says that nothing can travel faster than light, and doing so would be like travelling back in time.

James Gillies, a spokesman for European Organization for Nuclear Research, or CERN, said on Wednesday the lab’s startling result was now in doubt.

More at http://www.thestar.com/news/world/a...inos-was-einstein-wrong-or-was-the-wire-loose

 

[SchmitzIT]

As it turns out, the wire was loose.

 

[Edrondol]

The biggest problem with this from the beginning was the fact that it was difficult to peer review and replicate this experiment. CERN is the only place that could even do this and there was always the knowledge that even the smallest issues with hardware would have rendered this experiment as moot.

 

[Digital Doctor]

Note to CERN:

You got the order wrong

1) Weird Neutrino results you know are super unlikely.
2) Press conference about (1)
3) Check for loose wires.

The correct order is 1) 3) 2).

 

[EQnoble]

Faster than Light = Fail.

if invariant mass > 0
{
do - actionTravel
{speed = [0 - < 186,000 MPH]}
}

if invariant mass = 0
{
do - actionTravelMassless
{speed = [0 -∞]}
}

 

[jadmperry]

Don't know about any of the code from the previous post (was that .php?) But, looks like the jury is in on this one:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/17/science/einstein-proved-right-in-retest-of-neutrinos-speed.html

Einstein (and the speed of light) 1, Neutrinos 0.

 

[mrGTB]

As it turns out, the wire was loose.

He should have invested in a decent quality screw driver, instead of a "pound saver" cheap one.

 

[Fred Sherman]

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012...entist-resigns-over-mistake/?intcmp=obnetwork

Looks like it cost him his job too.

 

[Digital Doctor]

Higgs boson can’t hide: ‘end-game’ approaching in hunt for ‘God particle’

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/a...de-u-s-research-confirms-god-particle-results