As designed Conversation filter language is wonky

[beerForo]

Affected version

2.2

Started by
Received by

I am wondering if you mean Received from?

So I tested this. Received by simply means ME. The message was received by me. So that is all the PMs. So I wondered if this filter actually did mean by for the ones sent to me, and I replied, so it was received by them. So I have a spam PM that I did not answer. It was not received by that person, it was received by me and from that person. However, in the filter I chose "Received by" and entered their name. This PM came up. So I think you mean received FROM.

Also it would be nice to tick both of these so we can just find the conversations with a person without having to do it twice, or be able to enter the name under all conversations, so it is all "with ____." Thanks

 

[Chris D]

The wording is correct. It finds conversations where the name you search for is a recipient.

 

[beerForo]

But it didn't. I filtered a spam message that was sent to me, and put their name in Received by. I was the only recipient. I never replied so they never were.

 

[beerForo]

If you have a message you've never replied to filter the name with Received by. It comes up. It should not if this is the intent.

 

[beerForo]

I don't mind the results, as they are showing whether you sent it or not and replied or not, so I will use it as a show all per user, but the language is not correct unless you are counting people as recipients of their own original message. Like I said, wonky.

If you still do not see it as wrong I will just edit, thanks. Perhaps to "Conversations with"

 

[beerForo]

The wording is correct. It finds conversations where the name you search for is a recipient.

So since there's no replies I am just wondering, are you guys interpreting a member sending you a conversation (and you do not reply) as them being the actual recipient? Because the filters are saying so. If this is so I need to adjust my language as this is very odd.

 

[Chris D]

I used the word recipient. Perhaps the word "participant" is clearer. It literally searches for PMs where the name you search for is a participant. Doesn't matter who sent it, who started it. If they're a participant in the conversation they will come up.

 

[beerForo]

Yes but "Received by" is the language used by XF in the filter. So how is a PM sent from someone and I am not replying showing up as they received it?????

 

[Chris D]

Perhaps the wording comes more from how we refer to them internally. It wasn't entirely accidental me using the word recipient earlier. We refer to all participants in a conversation -- again regardless of who sent/started what -- as recipients. The received by filter simply returns all conversations where the user you search for is a recipient - a recipient being any active participant in a conversation who is able to receive replies.

If you have a proposal for better wording, you may feel free to create a suggestion but honestly it's the same wording we've used for 9 years or so and I'm not sure it has been an issue to this point.

 

[beerForo]

Fair enough. I will probably just edit mine. "Received by" would not usually refer to the sender having a copy of an un-replied to conversation he sent. I don't even understand that, so I am going to edit the language to "Conversations with"

Thanks for going back and forth with me.

EDIT

I edited my language, even the one above it. This is how I did it:

Show only:
Show all conversations
Conversations started by
Conversations with