I think we've had this debate before. Maybe the general, non-topic-specific forums are dying out.All forums are losing no matter how you look at it..
Forums such as XDA-Developers, DigitalPoint, IGN, are all still strong.
I think we've had this debate before. Maybe the general, non-topic-specific forums are dying out.All forums are losing no matter how you look at it..
No offence, but if you knew anything about forums, you'd know thats a load of rubbish As James said, non-topic specific forums, sure but given that 99% of forums are specific to a niche area, they are not at all affected. Very few people actually bother going on facebook to communicate with anyone who's not already a friend, and even fewer make a habit of joining groups and making a regular contribution.All forums are losing no matter how you look at it..
vB5 has nothing to do with this court case, but either way it's not a win for XenForo unless they have the ability to capitalize on the upset community. In this case I believe IPB is the real winner. No matter how I look at the forum software industry, all signs point to an IPB win. Essentially you have an upset vB customer base who isn't in love with vB5. While there will be users who stick by the product, there will also be quite a few who are upset with it. Right now XenForo is not an alternative for them because XenForo is not in a good place. The only other viable option for someone looking to start a community is IPB. If I didn't have the experience I had with XF since the first public beta release I would not have purchased this software. People love stability and that's not what is happening here.
If anything, this case does nothing for IB except remove potential competition. I believe this court case made IB weaker from a consumer perspective. Anyone who is a XenForo fan will more than likely not invest in vBulletin if XenForo ends up losing this case. I would be more inclined to purchase IPB if anything. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. So all in all this case does nothing but weaken the forum market as a whole and give a distinct advantage to Invision Power.
It's almost kind of sad really. Competition drives innovation and without it, we the consumer, lose.
It was extremely hard for me to follow your post. This isn't to promote IPB as a great product, it's simply thinking about who wins and who loses from this situation. I don't understand what you're talking about and your references/metaphors are quite disturbing.You think things are crazy or negative here, so much that XenForo is worse?
Oh God.... There is good enough reason why more than 1/2 of IPB forum is private and you can not view it unless you are a customer. And it is not just to prevent piracy or add a layer of customer privacy either (as they will claim).
If you love drama, trolls, and staff trolls... IPB is right for you. Think a professional looking 4Chan.com type of enviroment
You all flipped out that 1x Jake said he didn't care about something. Oh I've got news for you... IPB has said and done much worse.
They have a good "PR campaign". I will give them that much credit. Oh from the outside the grass looks very green and friendly. Get inside and Freddy Krueger (movie, nightmare on elm street) is manning the door.
IPB has a good Public Relations Department in that they can "spin" anything. I'd love to higher their PR Department. Hell... Mitt Romney could have done better (leading in the polls) if he had hired IPB's PR Department.
what was hard to follow about it?It was extremely hard for me to follow your post. This isn't to promote IPB as a great product, it's simply thinking about who wins and who loses from this situation. I don't understand what you're talking about and your references/metaphors are quite disturbing.
I will say this. I rather have someone there at the door period, than no one at all.
XF divided community will ultimately be it's downfall.
The courtcase should have made this community (what's left of it) stronger, it had the opposite affect..
Ouch, for the perhaps 745th time, IPB = Invision Power Board, IB = Internet Brands (owns vBulletin). Lawsuit is against IB.Everyone supports XF in its lawsuit with IPB.
On the CA case. No news. Trial still scheduled to begin November 6th. Will Kier shows up to defend himself is the real question at this point. Just showing up for the case in LA will cost $10K in travel and lodging expenses. If the vaguely referenced "personal problems" and lack of financial capability result in a no show, IPB will win by default.
One of many .... Many examples.I understood it. And I agree.
http://www.forum-software.org/news/09102012-ipboard-demo-license-key-revoked
XF could have handled this a whole lot differently from the start
Ouch, for the perhaps 745th time, IPB = Invision Power Board, IB = Internet Brands (owns vBulletin). Lawsuit is against IB.
I am not going to bother trying to keep this thread on topic anymore. For those wanting to know the current status of the lawsuit you can watch this thread:
http://xenforo.com/community/threads/status-of-lawsuit.39082/
It is divided only for those who would like it to be divided.I don't think the XF community is really divided.
I think this thread needs putting to bed now. Closing time in my opinion!
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