Apple products and pricing

I remember when I went into the apple store for help on my iphone because it froze up, the young gal said in such a monotone voice - "did you hold the power button", I said yes, she responds with, "that will fix it" I said I tried which is why I'm here. She then shrugged and went to go sign me in, and guess what :) The amazing mac she signed me in on froze up, I told her to hold the power button.

Never owned a mac myself, never really saw the need, I personally have never been so frustrated with my computer I get to that point, heck I don't even get mad at my computer lol :), custom built and I can safely say it runs great.
 
grant sarver said:
"Market share gained"?
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That brings Apple’s market share from 2.8 percent in 2010 to 5.0 in 2011



Anthony Parsons said:
Actually, they haven't caught up at all... you are in serious delusions if you think they have. Others are chasing Apple, not Apple chasing others. You don't gain and hold dominance by chasing the other players after the fact.
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From my personal experiences, the experiences of people I know and the reccomendations of several phone shops around here, more people are leaning towards android phones over the iphone and apart from a small rush when the iphone 5 is released, they don't expect that to change much after either.

The one thing google has shown us, they are exceptionally good at providing what the user wants.
 
Wow, so much Mac hate in this thread... Makes me a very sad panda. If it wasn't for Apple, you have to some what wonder if some of the things many of us use daily, would it even exist now.. Like say Photoshop.. Adobe started as a Apple only company and made a lot of capitol to expand from the "fanatic" Apple graphic artist. Would we have such great Adobe products today if it wasn't for the very pro-Mac people 10 years ago... What about WoW? The most subscribed video game of all time, Blizzard started as a Mac only game company.
 
Anthony Parsons said:
Actually, they haven't caught up at all... you are in serious delusions if you think they have. Others are chasing Apple, not Apple chasing others. You don't gain and hold dominance by chasing the other players after the fact.

With your thinking, everything that is marketing, is just plain wrong... because you think the chaser will overtake the inventor. Wrong.

Microsofts latest smartphone OS... total garbage. Google Android... not bad, but again, Google are chasing... they all lost that market share the moment Apple beat them to the punch. Yahoo and Microsoft thought they could catch Google in the search market. Have they? Not even close... Google gained dominance by building and implementing innovation, the others try to catch, but as their busy playing catchup, Google are already working on the next leap again, thus maintaining dominance. People don't switch easily once they're used to a product. Sh*t, it took me until 2011 to switch from an OS and system I complained about and wanted to constantly throw out the window, because at the end of the day, I was familiar with it, being Windows + PC.

I wouldn't expect human behaviour to change that rapidly... Apple's dominance is growing, though I will agree, its not going to wipe out the PC market in one or two years... but I think the PC market is in for a real shakeup from Apple, as it gains a bigger chunk of the market share. One or two percent share in a trillion dollar market per annum... that's a big loss to one, a big gain to another, per annum.

Apple's increase in the computer market has increased 1 - 2% in the last fiscal year, taking a big slice away from the PC market. Keep that going each year, with expected growth due to iPhone and iPads success... if that blows upwards to 2 - 4% per annum, the PC market will become much more worried with every year.

Blackberry said the same thing when they have dominance in the mobile market... and they just lost touch with what users wanted, and instead kept giving them what they're used to... and iPhone in two years has gone from around 20% to 60% mobile market dominance. As a result of that... yes, users are also now looking far more closely at changing to an Apple computer, because their iPhone / iPad, just works seemlessly for them... as stated above by many.

What real questions?

I once thought the same, Windows, Windows, Windows... PC, PC, PC... I thought Apples where just hard work, confusing and different, outside the scope of what was supported. That used to be the case... and probably why when I had looked at macs previously over the years, I just didn't like them.

Well... go take a look at them now, give them a real good playing with, then see if you think the same. It changed my ignorant mind... Not sure why some get all Mac or PC oriented... I still have Windows the OS...

What do you have? A bulky computer box or media size box sitting around? Then monitors? Then speakers, cables connecting it all, the list goes on! I have a single system with a power cord. That's it...

If I want to use another mac, I sit it beside my other one, and it becomes a dual screen instantly, no cables required. If I need pages read to me, its built in. If I need to save to PDF, its built in. If I need to quickly organise a large library of photos using facial recognition, its built in. If I need to take a screen capture any multitude of ways, window, part thereof, etc etc... its built in... no further cropping required.

Now... all you home experts on building computers... what took me with a multi-platform game, being Starcraft II, to run on my PC, needing a gig of gaming memory to run, and still stuttered at times, ran flawlessly on the mac, using only 256 3D. Are systems actually the same? No... there not. When combining an engineered, near flawless system quality, with the Apple OS, programs just work.

Even my wife using MYOB, Outlook, etc etc, lots of windows open with her business stuff... she was using Windows which kept crashing atleast daily. Put Windows onto mac system, ran a lot better for her. Shifted her over to Mac OS, her Outlook, MYOB, and all the other programs she has open at once, hasn't crashed once for her.

I could explain until the cows come home Shelley, but seriously, its useless, because it won't change anyone's ignorance or perception here... I used to read this stuff and laugh, also being ignorant. I was wrong... simple as that. I'm not a maccy or whatever you call them... I just simply accept that since changing from PC + Windows to Mac + OSX, I no longer want to throw my computer through the window on a daily basis, NOR, do I get crashes or any other nonsense.

Has it been a learning curve to change? Hell yes... and its the part I hate the most. I just bought a book yesterday, "The Mac Book" which I am learning so much from... just a normal magazine, but big pictures, clear information, easy to read, showing further indepth use on how to really get exceptional use from a Mac.

I would also say... we didn't stuff about with it and try to hack existing products that aren't compatible with Mac, because from everything said to me, you either do it properly or don't bother. Example, the printer died, so we got a Mac compatible one knowing we were changing to all Mac. We ditched normal wireless equipment, went with Mac wireless, as I quickly found there was a vast difference when using wireless to a normal router vs. mac router. The distance we get from the Mac we couldn't from the third party one, not even close, and doors open, closed, etc, no effect on the signal, unlike third party routers gave us issues with.

I still have a lot to learn about them... and I am constantly searching for how to do things... but as I relearn a new OS, Mac just has a lot more out of the box than Windows... and I seriously mean, a lot more. Go compare Mac with Windows features for yourself. The difference just for servicing astounded me... when I got my last PC's, two had issues in the first year, one gone for days, one gone for over a week. Mac... there and then on the spot, or they just swap it over for you. No screwing about... they can quickly clone your drive over to the replacement even while you go shop or browse for 30 minutes, providing your HDD hasn't shat itself. After sales service is just outstanding with Apple compared to PC.
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Thanks for the response Anthony, I just felt previous to that post you were being vague by stating problems with your pc which has been common to mac migration folk whom say the first thing that comes into their heads and posting statistical data that doesn't mean anything.I really (because your posts are always explained very well) I wanted to know the reasons for such statements.

I personally lost faith in macs whenI was given a brand new g4 laptop and upon opening it powering up and it would constantly power down every 5 minutes. Just as simple as that, powered down all the time for no reason whatsoever. I'll admit, I considered purchasing a mac desktop 6 months ago when i had this custom pc built that i'm using now (it came to 1650 gbp) and to answer your question it does indeed come with an abundance of wires x 2 monitors, desktop, and about 7-8 usb cables. But I was happy enough win7 made good progress enough to purchase it over my terrible g4 mac issues which most probably was the determining factor why i never purchased the mac.
 
Brogan said:
Surely that should be iStab?
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uh-oh...it DOES exist:
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