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Browser Issue Admin Style mess-up

Discussion in 'Resolved Bug Reports' started by bart, Mar 26, 2013.

  1. bart

    bart Active Member

    After upgrading to 114 i still get these errors. This is MSIE-only. MSIE 7 (and maybe others)

    This is the page of outdated templates. All looks well

    But when i scroll down a bit, you see the header "OA" (name of a style) doesn't scroll down with the rest. Instead there is an open space between the "public" and the "footer" template. OA remaines in the same spot, whatever i do.


    Somthing similar happens on the node-tree. You see how the last column doesn't stay in the viewport.

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  2. Mike

    Mike XenForo Developer Staff Member

    These are generally just IE bugs - on the whole, I would probably say that we simply won't work on making the admin area anything but "usable" on older than IE8. (I would expect dropping all support for browsers older than IE8 in the future TBH.)
  3. bart

    bart Active Member

    Is it really that much work? IE is still 40% of my visitors and 15% of those are on 7 or lower. looking at the wordl that's way too many customers to lose.
  4. tyteen4a03

    tyteen4a03 Well-Known Member

    Or do the right thing and guide them to Chrome/FF. :)
  5. Brogan

    Brogan XenForo Moderator Staff Member

    Surely your customers aren't all logging in to the ACP?
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  6. Chris D

    Chris D XenForo Developer Staff Member

    You won't find many people supporting any website below IE8. The only reason IE8 is still tolerated is because there's still a surprising amount of people using Windows XP and that's the highest version of IE they can get.

    It's unreasonable to expect anyone to support a browser (IE7) that is 7 years old this year. And IE6 is 12 years old this year.

    IE8 functions perfectly on the front end. Admins shouldn't be using anything below IE9 and even then should probably still be using something like Chrome or FF for the back end (for security).
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  7. bart

    bart Active Member

    Touché. :D

    But if you get it to work in the frontend, then why not in the backend.

    But okay okay, I'll live with it.
  8. feldon30

    feldon30 Well-Known Member

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  9. bart

    bart Active Member

  10. Biker

    Biker Well-Known Member

    There comes a time when you can't support every ancient architecture because users refuse to update for some reason. Seriously, how long are site owners expected to support old, buggy, browsers? The more site owners who flat refuse to cater to the lazy, the quicker IE 6 and 7 becomes just a bad memory.
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  11. bart

    bart Active Member

    it is a bit an illusion to think we are going to have any impact on that. The reality is that there are many old browsers out there. And there will be for decades to come. I would like my site to work on everyone of them

    But the admin-part is a diferent story. Brogan was right about that.
  12. Chris D

    Chris D XenForo Developer Staff Member

    That's going to keep you VERY busy (y)
  13. bart

    bart Active Member

    maybe we should all agree on something like a text-version for everyone with a browser older then x years or a computer with a floppy-drive.
  14. Mike

    Mike XenForo Developer Staff Member

  15. bart

    bart Active Member

    Wow, is google reading this thread? We are making a difference!
  16. Chris D

    Chris D XenForo Developer Staff Member

  17. bart

    bart Active Member

    Didn't look right. That was from june 2011. Two years ago. :whistle:

    And indeed, I don't use IE for google-apps anymore on my laptop. Chrome still works fine.
  18. Andy.N

    Andy.N Well-Known Member

  19. feldon30

    feldon30 Well-Known Member

    An unrealistic expectation in my opinion. But you're welcome to take up that full-time job. ;)

    Fortunately, XenForo follows HTML standards and is not a super heavy "AJAX Web App" so it should remain usable in other browsers -- if somewhat ugly in visuals -- for a long time.

    Btw I abandoned Firefox for Chrome. Even though it's a sadly bare bones browser, it has great performance and doesn't hang all the time like the Firefox 7/8/9/10/11/12/13/14/15/16/17/whatever madness which gets worse with each release.
  20. MrYTB

    MrYTB New Member

    I have cute admin control panel :D

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