Ad Block. Why i think Ad-Block is a great invention.

Is see no ads anywhere on your site. Does it cost much to host or fund?

Quick question, have you ever thought of using Multisite for your different, related forums?
 
The reason I installed adblocking software is because of intrusive ads; it gets very frustrating see some image on the side of the webpage that has some sort of animation or flashing text.

All hail adblock
 
I don't know your site and I don't know the ads running on it. I feel like the majority of the people posting here don't have a problem with ads - just with specific types of ads that have started taking over a lot of websites. Now, maybe you only have very limited, very non-intrusive ads. In which case, sorry that your ads might get blocked by people, you probably don't deserve that.

However, a lot of the ads are very much intrusive and mostly just a pain to the users. As long as a lot of companies / websites keep using those, a lot of people will keep trying to block them. And maybe you feel it's theft, but would you honestly feel better if all those people would stop visiting your website?

Ultimately, I think it's the piracy in games / movies argument; the people that are currently 'stealing' access to your website were likely never gonna use it without the adblock anyway. I know I would have stopped using youtube a long time ago due to the stupid amount of honestly very frustrating ads.

P.s.: users leaching but giving nothing in return? For a forum? How about all the free content your users have provided you with over the years which you didn't pay them for? :)

But if this is true, then why are (most) website not 'paid to access'? You wouldn't have to put up ads (which in turn can't be blocked so your income in unaffected), and people would pay fairly for your content. And if they don't see the value, they can simply not visit, no harm done. Seems like it would solve all the issues, so why do you think this doesn't happen?
So many....erroneous comments in this...where to start? For one, some of our sites actually provide unique information and answers to help you can't find anywhere else. So, your argument about it being like games / movies is invalid. Sure, someone downloading a movie may not have watched it without downloading it, but if you can't find that information anywhere else on the internet, you are going to use that site to get that information, period. Or cry in the corner...whichever.

As far as the free content users provide. Are they paying the bills? Are they dealing with the headaches that comes with running a site? Heck, they get to log off and not come back for a few months...try to do that and see what happens to your site. We give them a platform to express their thoughts, ideas, etc. It's not like we are forcing them to post on our sites. Plus, in order to get big, the owner is likely the one doing all the posting, helping out all the new people. It took YEARS for me to see a ROI. I had 2,000 posts before we had 2,000 members. Next closest was in the 600 posts range (staff). Again, null and void comment.

Most websites are not "pay to access" because we wouldn't get any traffic from Google. Or, if you played it like a stupid person and gave Google access, Google would then cache your pages so in the event someone finds you via G, they can just view the cached version without having to pay for the information.

Now, had you said "pay to interact" or "pay for an account", that might have sparked a better conversation. But if it was that way, you'd have a pretty dead forum...so I guess not so much better of a conversation.
 
So many....erroneous comments in this...where to start? For one, some of our sites actually provide unique information and answers to help you can't find anywhere else. So, your argument about it being like games / movies is invalid. Sure, someone downloading a movie may not have watched it without downloading it, but if you can't find that information anywhere else on the internet, you are going to use that site to get that information, period. Or cry in the corner...whichever.
Possibly. But if you have thát kind of unique content, you could probably get by on other ways than ads as well (Wikipedia, for example). I get your point though.

As far as the free content users provide. Are they paying the bills? Are they dealing with the headaches that comes with running a site? Heck, they get to log off and not come back for a few months...try to do that and see what happens to your site. We give them a platform to express their thoughts, ideas, etc. It's not like we are forcing them to post on our sites. Plus, in order to get big, the owner is likely the one doing all the posting, helping out all the new people. It took YEARS for me to see a ROI. I had 2,000 posts before we had 2,000 members. Next closest was in the 600 posts range (staff). Again, null and void comment.
Try cutting them out and see how much visitors you get then. It depends on the kind of site you run of course, but there are plenty of sites (forums being among them) that rely heavily on user content. More posts from users -> more content -> more google hits / readers -> more ad revenue. Again, depending on the type of forum. Anyone saying that users are just leachers and their content is just a headache should in my opinion try to cut all users & their content away from their side and see how their unique visitors and monthly income will do then.

Most websites are not "pay to access" because we wouldn't get any traffic from Google. Or, if you played it like a stupid person and gave Google access, Google would then cache your pages so in the event someone finds you via G, they can just view the cached version without having to pay for the information
Fair point.

Now, had you said "pay to interact" or "pay for an account", that might have sparked a better conversation. But if it was that way, you'd have a pretty dead forum...so I guess not so much better of a conversation.
But yes, this was kinda what I was aiming at. :)
 
So is bandwidth for many internet users and ads are basically a waste of it. Surfing without adblock is pretty much impossible nowadays.
Never had Adblock and surf all day everyday. Again if a site is going overboard with ads or serving malicious ads I black list and never return. But I don't expect any webmaster to treat me their end user as a charity case.
 
Never had Adblock and surf all day everyday.
You must have a high level of pain resistance. Or maybe too much time. I don't and that's why I block most cross-site crap, not limited to ads (but including).

Amazing how pages can load in a split second which otherwise takes half a minute, because they download half of the internet on every single page view.
 
Adblock is no doubt a bad way to paying back the websites. But considering how some websites use ads, we can't blame users. Admins are at loss, but then is the time to look for alternative models for earning.
 
No i just have decent broadband.
Rest assured, the bandwith I have available is most likely higher than yours (unless you sit directly on the backbone), but that doesn't matter. Bandwith isn't everything and doesn't help you a single bit when a site embeds stuff from some overloaded crappy adserver. Add to that the deficiencies of the current HTTP protocol (there are reasons why HTTP/2 will handle a lot of things differently) and you get poor page loading times, no matter how much bandwith you have available.
 
Well for a new site which doesn't even have advertising (yet?) I added a small notice that only shows to users using adblock- it simply asks them to consider disabling it on my promise there will be no intrusive ads. Even if they don't disable it they can use the site, they just see the notice- it shouldn't really bother anyone. The main goal is just to remind people "Hey, you're using adblock- at least give this site a chance..." - best I can do, I would not suggest admins be any more proactive than that.
 
I have nothing against sites wanting to make some money but I wish more sites would offer me the choice to pay a small monthly fee to not have ads.
 
Rest assured, the bandwith I have available is most likely higher than yours (unless you sit directly on the backbone), but that doesn't matter. Bandwith isn't everything and doesn't help you a single bit when a site embeds stuff from some overloaded crappy adserver. Add to that the deficiencies of the current HTTP protocol (there are reasons why HTTP/2 will handle a lot of things differently) and you get poor page loading times, no matter how much bandwidth you have available.
lol why are so offended that i don't have a use or need for ad blocking software? Like i said earlier it probably boils down to the types of sites you surf vs the types i surf.. Relax and run your adblock and surf your precarious sites to your hearts content.. At any rate i didn't subscribe to this thread to get in a pissing match with you over broadband speed..
 
At any rate i didn't subscribe to this thread to get in a pissing match with you over broadband speed..
Last time I checked, it wasn't me who mentioned "decent broadband" first, but judging from your other posts, I see why you do not like adblock - you're just "sitting on the other end" and from that point of view, your arguments may very well be valid. Not from my point of view though.
 
Last time I checked, it wasn't me who mentioned "decent broadband" first, but judging from your other posts, I see why you do not like adblock - you're just "sitting on the other end" and from that point of view, your arguments may very well be valid. Not from my point of view though.
No i just dont surf porn anymore.. well not frequently enough to need adblock anyways.
 
You mean pay $5 everytime you find of a forum or blog searching for an answer ? Should work.
Funny thing is that you rarely find answers in forums or blogs, given that the vast majority of forums or blogs nowadays are content aggregators with little to none original and good content. If 90% of all those sites would vanish tomorrow, nobody would even notice, let alone give a damn.

And yes, for a really good forum that offers good and original content, I would also happily pay a reasonable subscription fee as long as the site is worth it.
 
You mean pay $5 everytime you find of a forum or blog searching for an answer ? Should work.
No, I meant $5 a month for any forum that I actively participate in since that's where the real money is. Very little real money in drive-by advertising.
 
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