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XF's greatest flaw...Skins.

Discussion in 'General XenForo Discussion and Feedback' started by Vicros, Sep 21, 2012.

  1. Vicros

    Vicros Active Member

    The skinning department. One of the best XF skinners was/is Ehren from IPBFS and he has left XF. The other was Forsaken. Where are all of the XF skinners at? Most of these skins are horrid and plain. We need better skinners to help with this thing. I was going to but im not in that game anymore and dont have time for it, we need someone to pick up the slack.

    JABRONI Well-Known Member

    I have the same exact issue with XF. I love everything about this software, but the skins to choose from for a reasonable price are close to none. There are a few to pick from, but not enough imo. I've been thinking this since I first bought a license last year, and it really hasn't gotten any better :/
  3. DRE

    DRE Well-Known Member

    I stopped caring about skins period after I finished converting my site over from vBulletin 4. *shrugs
  4. Blue

    Blue Well-Known Member

    That is one of the reasons I like Xenforo. I can easily edit my own style and am not dependent on skin designers.
  5. bubbl3

    bubbl3 Active Member

    It's not hard to make your own style, everything in templates is very clear and you can do wonders with some CSS alone. Also the base template is a very good starting point.
    XenForo on average needs a higher level of knowledge to get the best out of it than other solutions, it is very powerful in the right hands but probably not for people that likes "install and forget".
  6. John

    John Well-Known Member

    You all obviously haven't been to my site.
    Sylar, ShadyX, CyclingTribe and 3 others like this.
  7. DRE

    DRE Well-Known Member

    I know right. It's WAAAAAYYYY EASIER to skin xenforo than any other forum software I've used.
    Garamond likes this.
  8. Jake Bunce

    Jake Bunce XenForo Moderator Staff Member

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  9. RobParker

    RobParker Well-Known Member

    When did Ehren "leave XF"?
  10. DRE

    DRE Well-Known Member

    Who is Ehren and what skins did he make?

  11. Forsaken

    Forsaken Well-Known Member

    There are a great many stylists for XenForo; most of them do not do free work.

    Many of them do not even do much paid work any longer, or if they do they do it for special clients only.
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  12. RobParker

    RobParker Well-Known Member

    Unless he "quit" in the last few days he's still involved with Xenfocus.
    8thos likes this.
  13. jadmperry

    jadmperry Well-Known Member

    I am very happy with the work done for me by Sean James at http://www.bluepearl-skins.com/

    He is quick, competent, and has reasonable fees, in my opinion.
  14. Shelley

    Shelley Well-Known Member

    Examples of bad skins? Perhaps if you feel so strongly the standard of skins are not up to your expectations you should come out of retirement and make time in bring styles to xenforo. I'll be honest I have about 15 - 20 custom styles on my HD ready for release but I'll probably release them when hell freezes over.

    I have a dark style that I may consider releasing when I see a little more commitment from the developers or #whenhellfreezesover whichever comes first.
    Kim, Sylar, Bob and 4 others like this.
  15. MagnusB

    MagnusB Well-Known Member

    Sylar, R_A, Shelley and 1 other person like this.
  16. jadmperry

    jadmperry Well-Known Member

    This is not meant to push the flames of the controversies here....just an honest question.

    If you have these styles ready, why not release them? Seems to me that you can only gain on this as no matter what, the current version of XF works just fine. Just curious.
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  17. Forsaken

    Forsaken Well-Known Member

    She doesn't want to support them, which is actually a pretty good reason.

    The cost of styles (If paid) doesn't really cover supporting them, especially if you get users who don't think before they do things. For free styles it's even worse because you don't get paid for them :p.
    Jeremy, Kim, Sylar and 4 others like this.
  18. David_

    David_ Active Member

    He's kinda pulled a KAM

    While he hasn't "quit" he just isn't doing it any more.
    Sylar likes this.
  19. psTubble27

    psTubble27 Well-Known Member

    Exactly. Skins are some of the greatest advantages of XF, and I haven't seen ANY software: VB let alone IPB, give as much power to the individual designer as I've had in XF.

    I can't speak for Ehren, but he was just one, of two developers working on Xenfocus. As he admitted he was never entirely into XF, and on the other hand, all of Xenfocus styles have been updated to XF's 1.1.3 when it came out, meaning that it's under current active support. Seems pretty good to me.
    8thos likes this.
  20. jadmperry

    jadmperry Well-Known Member

    Sometimes, trolls are funny or at least interesting. Other times, I think they suck. The funny ones- well, you know because you laugh or chuckle. The ones that suck? You know them because they do one or more of several things:

    1) Take a some fact or evidence and then stretch it as far as possible to make an extreme point.
    2) Make strawman, Aunt Sally, or other arguments that are logical fallacies in support of their position(s).
    3) Have nothing useful to offer and make ad hominem attacks.
    4) Feel neglected if no one pays attention to them or their irrelevant or sad attacks.
    5) Have never contributed anything helpful to anyone on the site they are posting on.
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