DRE
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If your going to mention his problems like that, don't forget, low sex drive too.
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ArnyVee
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Guys, I was negotiating with Steve in taking over his mods. The deal was contingent on me being able to find someone to take his existing addons and tweak/adjust them to fix bugs and/or further develop them. I could not secure someone to do so, only those that would want to code the addons from scratch with their own code.
With that being said, I'm in the midst of pricing out these options and will report back if/when I have an agreement in place and provide timelines and support expectations going forward. More to come when there is something to report.
With that being said, I'm in the midst of pricing out these options and will report back if/when I have an agreement in place and provide timelines and support expectations going forward. More to come when there is something to report.
DRE
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When you looked for developers, did you look on other forum software message boards? If I was a developer that was midly interested in xenforo but didn't know where to start, I'd jump at this opportunity. I think you should ask there but in such a way that you don't get banned lolGuys, I was negotiating with Steve in taking over his mods. The deal was contingent on me being able to find someone to take his existing addons and tweak/adjust them to fix bugs and/or further develop them. I could not secure someone to do so, only those that would want to code the addons from scratch with their own code.
With that being said, I'm in the midst of pricing out these options and will report back if/when I have an agreement in place and provide timelines and support expectations going forward. More to come when there is something to report.
Sheldon
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Personally, I can't see that as an acceptable reason. If he KNOWS he has this, why does he continually sell all these items, then up and leave. He did it again, and again, and again. Worst part, no refunds. Which is unacceptable.
ArnyVee
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Good idea, but I may have someone in the final stages (pricing out his time/work for me) to agree and get this started.
Dodgeboard
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I don't think he can afford to refund the money. His life is in disarray. He's trying to provide for a family and go to school. These "side jobs" he really doesn't have the time for, are helping him to make ends meet. I'm not condoning it by any means. And I'm not trying to "dis" Steve. Just trying to shed some light on what is happening.
Like I said, he doesn't set out to do this...it just ends up that way, time and time again.
Sheldon
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He can afford an iPhone though? Or a new MacBook Pro?
I don't buy for one second he didn't "have the money", not after those posts. What he did is downright pathetic. He was gone for a bit, after earning some money for his "x" type of add-ons, ran out, released same stuff under the "My" banner, then ran out again.
I'd say if he didn't worry about the gadgets, and focus on having a tad bit of integrity with all of this, things might have been a bit smoother for him.
Kevin
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Replies coming in faster than I can type tonight so I'll sum it up as... for the most part I agree with DodgeBoard. I think Steve starts out with good intentions but hits the wall and then the coders version of fight-or-flight kicks in and he chooses flight. His mistake is doing the same actions repeatedly with no apparent regrets nor, I think, understanding of how it appears to those who have/had a financial stake in his actions so he lashes out at anybody who speaks up, even those who had previously quietly dealt with his actions in private instead of in public.
DRE
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It is a good idea and I think I'll do it for some projects of my own.Good idea, but I may have someone in the final stages (pricing out his time/work for me) to agree and get this started.
I'm sure those other boards got their fair share of coders with issues but I might be able to weed through them...
Dodgeboard
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Like I said, his life is in disarray. I totally agree with your points. But people whose lives are in disarray are that way for a reason, poor choices. For some of us that do it repeatedly, making poor choices is somewhat of a character flaw. For Steve I really think it is a biological character flaw. You'd have to communicate with him a bit to understand what I mean. Manic depressive/Bi-polar/ADHD. It's difficult for me to understand how he can even code, at all. Believe me when I say, he really doesn't set out to scam people. He's just not a "finisher."
Forsaken
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If he knows he has issue finishing projects, he should know better than to try them. Or at least to charge for them.
This is nothing new for him; he had a history of it on vBulletin (He shrugged it away as haters hating on him, which is not true, or wasn't at one point) and it's continued till now.
Making excuses for him does nothing more than allow him a way to dodge responsibility to people who did pay for his products at one point. While it isn't necessarily a scam, he did completely bail on his customers and it isn't something that should be shrugged away due to issues he suffer from as there are millions of others that suffer from the same.
At the end of the day he won't take responsibility for his actions, and he obviously will not refund customers who are left hanging with a purchase which is unusable and will not see development unless Arny can find a programmer to continue with the work (Though it is likely easier to start from scratch and use a better code base). Before closing down he should have found a programmer to replace him, which would have at least left customers with continued development.
Banana Pup
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He blew that money on GW2 digital deluxe and WoW MoP, I know 1st hand he is playing GW2 daily as he added me to friends in the game and wrote me the other day still trying to get me to move to his realm. Before he fully closed down the project, a few days before he had made a post that he would not be coding from this date to that date due to GW2 releasing and then MoP. Him and his brother also started a guild in GW2 that he is leader of. Like already said, I don't think he does this with intent to scam.. He just gets stuck on a bug and starts something new to form a distraction from the current bugged mod..
sitwi
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Why should people leave it alone if they're owed money? Because you weren't one of them?
That's exactly what Steve is depending on.
Paypal are interested in fraudulent users. Steve/"Mythotical" was using Paypal (and Xenforo) to trade fraudulently.
This thread can be used to point people towards when he next tries to pull the same stunt under a different name.
In the meantime, I'll use it to inform people how to seek redress either through Paypal, or legally. And people are welcome to continue to contact me privately.
That's exactly what Steve is depending on.
Paypal are interested in fraudulent users. Steve/"Mythotical" was using Paypal (and Xenforo) to trade fraudulently.
This thread can be used to point people towards when he next tries to pull the same stunt under a different name.
In the meantime, I'll use it to inform people how to seek redress either through Paypal, or legally. And people are welcome to continue to contact me privately.
People can't do anything but issue a dispute to PayPal, which was suggested. It's not worth the effort for something like a low-priced software to take further legal actions. It's kinda ridiculous imo. And you don't help people by offering them legal advice when you are not entitled to, unless you are a lawyer who wants to work for free of course.
