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XF should update resource/add-on developer terms to ban call backs

Discussion in 'General XenForo Discussion and Feedback' started by Mouth, Nov 2, 2014.

  1. Mouth

    Mouth Well-Known Member

    Many XF admins don't realise that many XF add-ons makes constant call backs to the add-on developers service and tracks your usage of the add-on.

    I believe that XF should update developer and add-on resource uploader's terms so that the usage of "call-backs" within add-ons cannot be used to track usage of an add-on's.
     
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  2. oman

    oman Well-Known Member

    https://xenforo.com/community/help/resource-guidelines/
     
  3. Mouth

    Mouth Well-Known Member

  4. oman

    oman Well-Known Member

    They only recently added that as rules. They are taking action if people do not comply with those rules. Current resources must also comply and be updated to be in compliance. So technically it isn't allowed.
     
  5. Mouth

    Mouth Well-Known Member

    Thanks, I just reported 4 for callbacks.

    Sorry, disagree. Banning is clearly different than listing in description.
    It's an abhorrent mechanisms and XF should be above allowing it, listed in description or not.
     
  6. Chris D

    Chris D XenForo Developer Staff Member

    I don't like them or agree with them, necessarily but I don't think its right to outright ban them.

    It depends on the data being shared during the callback and for what reason.

    If it just sends your URL for license verification I don't see a problem with this.

    What exactly are your concerns about such mechanisms?
     
  7. Dakota Storm

    Dakota Storm Well-Known Member

    As long as its only calling back with your domain name for licening reasons then their is nothing inherently wrong with using callbacks.
    I do agree though, some authors have been overzealous with it.
     
  8. RoldanLT

    RoldanLT Well-Known Member

  9. Chris D

    Chris D XenForo Developer Staff Member

    Yeah, fail safes really need to be put in place to protect against that scenario. Also, why do those add-ons have callbacks. They are free, aren't they?
     
  10. RoldanLT

    RoldanLT Well-Known Member

    Yes most of them are free with Visible Branding but removable with payment.
    That way his callback check for license.
     
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  11. Mouth

    Mouth Well-Known Member

    Second sentence of my OP, is that not clear?
     
  12. Lisa

    Lisa Well-Known Member

    Ummm, your second sentence reads:-

    That's not a concern, that's a suggestion :D
     
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  13. Chris D

    Chris D XenForo Developer Staff Member

    It wasn't, hence why I asked.
     
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  14. AlexT

    AlexT Well-Known Member

    May I ask what's the purpose of this "license verification"?
     
  15. Dakota Storm

    Dakota Storm Well-Known Member

    to make sure people aren't using pirated addons? so that devs know they aren't giving support to freeloaders?
     
  16. SneakyDave

    SneakyDave Well-Known Member

    Can't you just choose not to use those addons that have callbacks, now that they should be more identifiable?
     
  17. Dakota Storm

    Dakota Storm Well-Known Member

    Exactly this, if ypou don't like it, vote with your feet and don't use the addons.

    By the way Dave, nice occupation :ROFLMAO:
     
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  18. AlexT

    AlexT Well-Known Member

    And herein lies the fallacy. Callbacks don't stop people who intend to pirate addons.
     
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  19. Alfa1

    Alfa1 Well-Known Member

    True, it doesn't affect piracy. It only alerts developers when customers install software on unlicensed domains.
     
  20. Lisa

    Lisa Well-Known Member

    And only if the person sharing it doesn't remove the callback from the code first.
     

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