Mr Lucky
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I'm confused by this. What kind of direction are they not providing (that they ought to be providing)?
XF 2.3 ?
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eL_
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You guys are nuts.
Even if xF 2.3 will come tomorrow, it will take months till all the add-on will line with the new version of xF... what I don't get is the rush everyone have now for 2.3 version.
I don't have any errors on my community and I will love to remain like that... Why to change something what it works perfectly with bugged add-ons, and when I say that... is because I think when xF2.3 will come will be a major change in almost everything.
I want the change... but I can wait till all will come perfectly clean in 2.3
Cheers
Even if xF 2.3 will come tomorrow, it will take months till all the add-on will line with the new version of xF... what I don't get is the rush everyone have now for 2.3 version.
I don't have any errors on my community and I will love to remain like that... Why to change something what it works perfectly with bugged add-ons, and when I say that... is because I think when xF2.3 will come will be a major change in almost everything.
I want the change... but I can wait till all will come perfectly clean in 2.3
Cheers
nodle
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A lot of people want to see a 2.3 version, because they are to see something for their money. IPS is pumping out monthly releases that include bug fixes and new features. Thier staff is always posting, and it makes the forums feel alive. This keeps people enticed. Members love seeing new visual features as well, or quality of life features. I think a lot of us start to worry when we see the bug reports building up, and no interaction from staff and things go quiet. You start to worry the company is going under or that it has been sold out to another company. I just hope we still see something this year, but each day that goes by we are running out of time. I am sure everything is fine, and we will all be excited as soon as it is announced though, and then then we will all be laughing because someone will make the first post asking when 2.4 is coming.
Mr Lucky
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Agreed. It would be silly but nobody is actually berating anyone for actually discussing it on a forum.
You're easily confused, aren't you?
Mr Lucky
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How about a rational discussion if you have one as opposed to ad hominem attacks?You're easily confused, aren't you?
No, but thank you anyway.
TPerry
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Ah, but that is NOT what portions of the thread is about... mayhap you should re-read it and then you will ultimately comprehend what much of the consternation is about.
This is a wash, rinse, repeat cycle every version. New version comes out.. and within a few days someone posts about "When is the next version coming out"... and for a while there is a reasonable discussion about what would like to be seen in it, then the impatient ones start posting because they are egregiously aggrieved because their "right to be kept in the know/up to date" is being infringed upon.
I have NO issues with talking about what users would like to see in 2.3... what I DO have issues with is the expectation of certain parties to be kept totally up to date on the status of where the developers are. Of course, I guess that has to do with the fact I've been around since 2012 and know that the developers release their HYS's shortly before the new version is ready to be tested... and I have learned patience as my trips around the sun have increased in number. From Millenials onward patience has become a rarity amongst the younger generations.
Gen Z is probably so far the most impatient of the bunch. As Yoda would say "A requirement for them instant gratification is".
Kier acknowledged that his statement of upcoming weeks was a little early, and it may have been made because of the "pressure" in here by those certain few to try to force them to release information about the upcoming release. And the very fact that several keep referencing back to that is the "proof in the pudding" about the stance of why many don't think roadmaps are a good idea, nor early, regular release of "features" as those features may not show up due to technical reasons.
Brad L
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I was a bit dramatic in my criticism and did not intend to come off as an angry customer. I am not angry by any means but there is a growing discontent. The development team's decision not to provide more direction or a long term road map may be the right decision given all the variables. I don't know. But I do know that those same decisions can negatively affect individual customers.
My issue revolves around design. Due to comments made in July by the development team one should assume there are big design changes coming in version 2.3. That put an immediate hold on plans to revamp my largest forum website. It's been over 100 days and my window for the project is getting smaller. The project's failure will likely lead to me walking away. I'm just getting too old and feel trapped in this position. If only I knew more about XenForo's plans.
Mr Lucky
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Can you link to those comments?
Mendalla
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Yeah, I was thinking that, too. "Big design changes" sounds a bit ambitious for a .x release. More like something I'd expect in a .0 upgrade.
TPerry
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Generally "big design changes" historically occur on a .0 release, not a x.Y release Those are design changes that would typically break backward compatibility.. The x.Y releases do consist of feature releases, some major, some minor. The x.y.Z are usually bug fixes.... or at least that was how it was back in 2010 and I don't think they've changed their process up.
beta 3, beta 4, RC1?
So is there any beta 3, 4 ? or we move to RC? Gold version release early December or new year?
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Pretty sure his comment is in reference to the "in a few weeks" that Kier made about hearing about 2.3.... and he simply assumed that it was going to be earth shattering/mind blowing since it has been so long between releases.
Many people forget the base design philosophy behind XenForo (and it's not always one I'm fond of)... that is to do the "big stuff" with add-ons/extension by either XF or 3rd parties. The core structure hasn't really changed THAT much since I started with it in 2012. Hell they didn't even have a gallery add-on (1st party) until they folded Chris into the development team and obtained his gallery add-on.
mjda
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I could be wrong, but I assume they're talking about this comment:
This question won't really be relevant with 2.3, so don't spend too much effort debating it
Mendalla
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What was it in response to, though, that might make it indicate a big design change? Because it certainly does not directly say anything about a design change.
eL_
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Exactly!
TPerry
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Forum width suggestion.
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The default forum width is 1200 pixels. It looks about right on a Full HD monitor and I've left mine at that after experimenting a bit with it. I'm curious what width you have your forum set at and why. 🙂
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in which the person in question made a comment about 1880px width.
Not something that sounds like a "major" improvement that I would base a business decision upon though since there is already a "work-around" in which you can define your forum widths currently.
mjda
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I agree and, like I said, I could be wrong about that being the post that @Brad L was talking about. That's just the only post I remember being related to design changes, albeit not necessarily something I'd consider to be a big design change. Again, maybe he was talking about something else. I'm not sure. Purely speculation on my part.
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